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Bryce Young hot take

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Lame Duck Grand Master

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I think Bryce will be fine and I have been one of his worst critics on this board.  I called him a bust during the draft.  Bryce is playing mostly mistake free football and he takes what defense gives him.  He’s very very good at reading the game and avoids forcing things.

I think the issue is with the fans because they set unrealistic expectations in their heads that Bryce is next Drew Brees right out of college.  No, it takes time to make the transition.  Bryce will be fine.

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1 minute ago, Frank9999 said:

Lol. Sorry red herring. You are a blind homer

I’ve been on this forum over a decade. Don’t think most would describe me as a “blind homer”. I’m a realist and being real with you, I’m telling you to go learn the game and maybe your opinions won’t be so trash. 

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1 minute ago, AceBoogie said:

I’ve been on this forum over a decade. Don’t think most would describe me as a “blind homer”. I’m a realist and being real with you, I’m telling you to go learn the game and maybe your opinions won’t be so trash. 

Ok so youre just an old blind homer? Thats more red herring nonsense. Who cares how long youve been on this forum. Your hot take here is nonsense. Hes simply trash right now, and cant even find the WRs when they break open. 

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6 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

Learn how to watch football is what I would suggest. 

I'm waiting for the all-22.

Bryce was by no means perfect, but he was far from the only problem and the potential is there. He can already read a field better in 2 games than Justin Fields can in year 3. Fields is an elite athlete though so he gets away with it by running. 

I keep saying things will look better by midseason but everyone is tripping over their own dicks to crap all over Bryce and the team. 

 

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3 minutes ago, Lame Duck said:

I think Bryce will be fine and I have been one of his worst critics on this board.  I called him a bust during the draft.  Bryce is playing mostly mistake free football and he takes what defense gives him.  He’s very very good at reading the game and avoids forcing things.

I think the issue is with the fans because they set unrealistic expectations in their heads that Bryce is next Drew Brees right out of college.  No, it takes time to make the transition.  Bryce will be fine.

he has 3 turnovers in 2 games and took 2 bad sacks last night while missing numerous throws, thats not mistake free football my brother

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2 minutes ago, Lame Duck said:

I think Bryce will be fine and I have been one of his worst critics on this board.  I called him a bust during the draft.  Bryce is playing mostly mistake free football and he takes what defense gives him.  He’s very very good at reading the game and avoids forcing things.

I think the issue is with the fans because they set unrealistic expectations in their heads that Bryce is next Drew Brees right out of college.  No, it takes time to make the transition.  Bryce will be fine.

“Mostly mistake free football”?

Id say for from. His redzone turnover yesterday was an absolute killer. He threw 2 more balls that should’ve been picked off

It’s been far from mostly mistake free

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Ok so youre just an old blind homer? Thats more red herring nonsense. Who cares how long youve been on this form. Your hot take here is nonsense. Hes simply trash right now, and cant even find the WRs when they break open. 

Great insight by you. Imagine a person called Frank calling someone old. This ain’t madden. Go sit down and have a juice box. 

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Bryce was supposed to be a super computer with elite touch. That’s what he was advertised as. He hasn’t been that. Richardson has looked like he is more confident in both his reads and throws. You can’t even compare Stroud to Young, that’s how night and day the two have looked. 
 

It’s difficult to make excuses and see the positive when other rookies who had more questions already seem to be providing more answers. And his only question was supposed to be around size. Y’all killed me during draft season when I said he looked like he had a bottom half of the NFL arm and I think it’s hard for anyone to say otherwise there now that we have seen it in real games. And that’s a concern. Because when your arm is weaker you need to be more precise with your throws and it’s just not been there. 
 

I don’t think we should compare Young to a Hall of Fame QB. 

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2 minutes ago, Ricky Spanish said:

I'm waiting for the all-22.

Bryce was by no means perfect, but he was far from the only problem and the potential is there. He can already read a field better in 2 games than Justin Fields can in year 3. Fields is an elite athlete though so he gets away with it by running. 

I keep saying things will look better by midseason but everyone is tripping over their own dicks to crap all over Bryce and the team. 

 

Fields strength was always going to be his mobility which so far is still true. 

Bryce’s strength is supposed to be his vision/processing… which hasn’t been true one bit. He absolutely should be able to read the field better than Fields. It’s literally why he went 1st overall 

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    • *FreeFua*
      Does anyone actually think Bryce will actually be good?

      By *FreeFua* · Posted

      Sam Howell could’ve been had for free
    • MHS831
      Does anyone actually think Bryce will actually be good?

      By MHS831 · Posted

      Initially, I wanted Stroud but I thought the trade up meant that, whoever they chose, it was for a reason.  There was no pressure to do anything for the entire scouting team to do other than investigate every aspect of the top 3 candidates.  Stroud had his question marks, and I think it is possible that he falters this year.  Bryce had a much worse situation here in Carolina because we neglected the OL, traded our #1 WR, did not pick WRs well in the draft, traded our pro bowl RB, and seem to disregard the TE position altogether.  Bozeman was not a good fit and we relied on an improved OL in 2022 to suggest that we were set there when we were far from it.  Fitterer had no vision, no grasp of talent, and everyone in the front office and on the coaching staff were pretending to be gurus.  Our coaching staff was a group of men earning a lifetime achievement paycheck.  It all goes back to the years of neglect for the OL.  My theory?  If Stroud had come to Carolina, he would be as mocked and ridiculed as Bryce Young.   No, he does not have a cannon.  Chad Pennington was a weak-armed QB who had success and would have been even better if it were not for injuries.  Smarts is important at QB, and so are mechanics.  Before you can address Young's mechanics, he needs an OL, Running game, and weapons. We were not really able to run play action from under center for a few reasons--play action is not effective when you have to pass the ball--other than that, the QB must turn his back to the LOS for about 1.5 seconds.  When the QB has less than 2.5 seconds to pass the ball, that eliminates that part of the play book.  Heck, even the run option is minimized when there is immediate facial pressure.  SO those who want to talk about happy feet, bouncing, etc--they are symptoms of the problem, not the problem.  A weak arm?  Well, Young's arm is between Chad Pennington and Joe Montana--closer to Joe.  His are is not as weak as some think--but he has issues with the deep ball. When you are reacting to the defense and quickly have to pass, then that takes away the strength because you don't have the base to get power behind it.  I still wish we had taken Stroud, but we have Young and if you toss him out before giving him support, you are not wise, unsmart, not unfoolish, and rather elite in your failure to attain mediocrity.  Expect growth.  How much? Nobody knows.
    • Captroop
      Good film breakdown of Young. Good and bad. Film examples

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      Honestly, irrespective of Bryce, this is my hope for Canales. I hate hearing about him being a "QB whisperer." Because I don't give a rat's ass about him saving Bryce's career. Bryce either proves to be worth what we gave up for him, or it's next man up. I'm just excited to have a young, innovative offensive mind.
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