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Ffs start Dalton all season


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34 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Bryce was built to hold a clipboard in the NFL. Today proved that's his natural spot. 

This team is going to get ripped even more now and Young is going to be taking shots on and off the field going forward. How they handle the QB situation is going to interesting moving forward and I am not expecting them to handle it well. 

Nah, we are irrelevant without Cam Newton. Same as hornets. People forgot the canes existed for ten years too

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5 minutes ago, RumHam said:

Nah, we are irrelevant without Cam Newton. Same as hornets. People forgot the canes existed for ten years too

This team is about to be a gaint piñata. Maybe next year but this year it's just low hanging fruit for everyone as this drags out this season.

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- First, Andy under the circumstances played well. He remained poised and showed great leadership throughout the game 

- However, the overarching problems with the offense remain the same. 

- The first TD was a result of a busted coverage by a Seahawks defender. Besides Adam Thielen, no one on the perimeter consistently wins. 

- OL; 8+ false starts and less than 3 yards per carry. 

- As soon as Bryce is 100% healthy he should be out there, gaining more experience.

 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, gmonjimbo said:

- First, Andy under the circumstances played well. He remained poised and showed great leadership throughout the game 

- However, the overarching problems with the offense remain the same. 

- The first TD was a result of a busted coverage by a Seahawks defender. Besides Adam Thielen, no one on the perimeter consistently wins. 

- OL; 8+ false starts and less than 3 yards per carry. 

- As soon as Bryce is 100% healthy he should be out there, gaining more experience.

 

 

 

Need to take a poll:  Which is more important wins or Bryce getting more reps?  Yes, the two are mutually exclusive, at least right now.

Dalton gives us the best chance for a victory, but at the expense of the #1 draft pick watching from the sideline.  Or, we can let Bryce take his lumps for "experience" and keep this losing steak rolling along.

It would be interesting to see how people feel.

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1 minute ago, Cdparr7 said:

You know, we would probably be 2-1 right now had we started Dalton the previous two weeks.

Yup, but it's hard to not start the #1 overall pick.  Would I have started Bryce?  Nope, rookies, especially QBs struggle mightily.  I would have rather have caught flack from the media and some fans by starting Dalton than staring 0-3 in the face.   Now we have Bryce banged up, probably a bit shaken in his confidence, a pissed off fan base and crappy record to show for it.

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56 minutes ago, gmonjimbo said:

- First, Andy under the circumstances played well. He remained poised and showed great leadership throughout the game 

- However, the overarching problems with the offense remain the same. 

- The first TD was a result of a busted coverage by a Seahawks defender. Besides Adam Thielen, no one on the perimeter consistently wins. 

- OL; 8+ false starts and less than 3 yards per carry. 

- As soon as Bryce is 100% healthy he should be out there, gaining more experience.

Chark looked open often, or at least had separation, but may need to wait for the film to be sure. 

TMJ is beyond atrocious, though, and it seems like we just have given up on Shenault.

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It is so frustrating seeing post after post of people thinking that starting one QB over the other is going to make the slightest bit of difference. Reich’s day in the sun is over if he ever had one. We have no idea what the OC  can even do because Reich has to have his way. The FO and the coaching staff are to blame. Arguing over who should be the QB is truly rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. The players are not being put in a position to succeed. 

 

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4 hours ago, CRA said:

It’s was their D that allowed Frank slightly more success than we had been having with his whack scheme and our talent. Seattle’s D has been a dumpster fire through 3 games. Notch Rd , Lexington,

But I do agree home field and noise aided them big time today.  Like it always does.

Their D Did the same thing the first 2 teams did. They were defending all the short and intermediate,  daring us to beat them deep. This is why our running game has been struggling.  

Our offense actually acctacked the defense today, instead of just taking what was available.  

Take it for what it's worth. 

Every team is hurt. Our defense is an excellent example. As well as they played, it was just too much to over come. 

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7 hours ago, 45catfan said:

Need to take a poll:  Which is more important wins or Bryce getting more reps?  Yes, the two are mutually exclusive, at least right now.

Dalton gives us the best chance for a victory, but at the expense of the #1 draft pick watching from the sideline.  Or, we can let Bryce take his lumps for "experience" and keep this losing steak rolling along.

It would be interesting to see how people feel.

With Andy, I can concede the team could be 1-2. He doesn't throw 2 ints to Jessie Bates that lead to 10pts for Atlanta.

However, I'm evaluating, 2 games against two top-ten scoring, passing, and total defenses in Atlanta and New Orleans versus one game against a bottom-three passing, scoring, and total defense in Seattle.

I can't honestly say after watching yesterday's game say with the insertion of Andy, the OL played better, the running game improved, the playbook was wide open, and the receivers sans Thielen made significant contributions 

Until the 4 items above improve, I don't see putting in Dalton provides much benefit short and definitely not long-term for the outlook of the team. 

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7 hours ago, Mike in Raleigh said:

It is so frustrating seeing post after post of people thinking that starting one QB over the other is going to make the slightest bit of difference. Reich’s day in the sun is over if he ever had one. We have no idea what the OC  can even do because Reich has to have his way. The FO and the coaching staff are to blame. Arguing over who should be the QB is truly rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. The players are not being put in a position to succeed. 

 

Reich had one year, 2017, where he was relevant and that was probably mostly on Pederson .

Reich has been riding that success ever since. 

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