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The impressive throw you wanted from Bryce


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Just now, Newtcase said:

Well I suppose you overlooked the "contested" part of my comment.  Chark is blanketed by the defender who is able to deflect the pass.  If throwing a 10 yard defended pass is the pass we were all waiting to see then I'm just going to agree to disagree.

the ball isnt deflected... lol.

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You could make argument that the hesitation and poor mechanics on the throw ruined the attempt. His feet are not set and the throw is all arm and unbalanced, he got away with this a lot in college with bad mechanicson throws. If he moves over from the pressure plants his feet and throws with more velocity and placement this might be a completion. 

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11 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

So after three starts the shining moment we're hanging our hat on is a ball thrown slightly not far enough out in front allowing the trailing defender to make a play? I mean, damn. That pretty much says everything.

It wasn't a bad throw and was much more just a good defensive play but if that ball is two feet further out from the defender leading Chark it's probably a TD. Y'all had almost convinced me Chark had dropped that ball. That's a PBU. If Chark had caught it? Hell, I'm honestly not sure the ball ever even touched his hands. Do you honestly not see the defender's hand deflecting that pass?

From the other view from the front side the ball is not deflected. It was a nice throw from Bryce.

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9 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

thats after it hits DJ's helmet.. I just posted video proof. The ball doesnt change flight path until it hits DJ

Yeah this clip shows it clearly.  I think the first clip may be missing frames.

Mind changed, this should have been caught and stands up to your original assessment. 

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18 minutes ago, TheCasillas said:

Ok yeah this isn’t the play I thought you were talking about. It’s a solid throw. A better WR probably catches that. This isn’t a type of catch I’d ever expect Chark to make but that has nothing to do with Bryce or the throw 

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10 minutes ago, Newtcase said:

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Some miserable people around here.

they’d rather go grab their tissue box and beat off to a CJ Stroud pass to a WR with no one within 20 yards of the guy in their custom Panthers Stroud jersey they bought after McCown said “when you move to Carolina”

instead being excited for at some of the few small glimmers.

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