Lions game snap count

[ncfan]

https://www.panthers.com/news/snap-counts-week-5-at-detroit

 

Jeremy Chinn only 18 snaps yesterday

 

TMJ 0 snaps yesterday

Edited October 9, 2023 by ncfan

[*FreeFua*]

And?

[Bluetooth]

41 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

And?

our best players are not getting enough snaps, 

we can't tell if we suck or our coaches are putting to much on the people they WANT TO SEE succeed.

We not playing to our strengths , because our COACHES don't know our weakest. 

The fact Mingo hasn't transition so far, slows down TMJ progress from last year, and then they go get Smith-Marsette(DJ Chark lite but explosive with better route running ability)

We saw a run play design for Sanders(who runs into his own blockers) that LS actually made work for 6-7 yards, and even with the play design, I think the WR motions in for an extra block, it's so easy to see it's coming.

Crazy thing is, we run the same formation, the same play but actually think we fooling someone to thinking we ain't that dumb to run the same play over again, and if we do change it up, the ball is going to the WR on a motion. 

We not putting the right guys together to win.

Chinn should be playing at least 90% of the time, TMJ should be getting more snaps than Mingo(who hasn't shown enough to earn his spot). which leads me to believe players see there's a COACH FAVORITE. It's hard to play for a Coach/Team that doesn't believe in you from the start. Hell, they can't even get enough reps to garner interest from other teams bc of lack of play.

 

[WhoKnows]

28 minutes ago, Bluetooth said:

our best players are not getting enough snaps, 

we can't tell if we suck or our coaches are putting to much on the people they WANT TO SEE succeed.

We not playing to our strengths , because our COACHES don't know our weakest. 

The fact Mingo hasn't transition so far, slows down TMJ progress from last year, and then they go get Smith-Marsette(DJ Chark lite but explosive with better route running ability)

We saw a run play design for Sanders(who runs into his own blockers) that LS actually made work for 6-7 yards, and even with the play design, I think the WR motions in for an extra block, it's so easy to see it's coming.

Crazy thing is, we run the same formation, the same play but actually think we fooling someone to thinking we ain't that dumb to run the same play over again, and if we do change it up, the ball is going to the WR on a motion. 

We not putting the right guys together to win.

Chinn should be playing at least 90% of the time, TMJ should be getting more snaps than Mingo(who hasn't shown enough to earn his spot). which leads me to believe players see there's a COACH FAVORITE. It's hard to play for a Coach/Team that doesn't believe in you from the start. Hell, they can't even get enough reps to garner interest from other teams bc of lack of play.

 

You lost me at TMJ. He’s shown barely anything in 3 years. Mingo should be getting all his snaps to see how he develops.

[Bluetooth]

3 minutes ago, WhoKnows said:

You lost me at TMJ. He’s shown barely anything in 3 years. Mingo should be getting all his snaps to see how he develops.

TMJ started making plays last year, after RHULE GOT CANNED remember, he wasn't been used correctly.

 

I mean DJ MOORE wasn't even consider a legit 1WR here let that sink in

[TheSpecialJuan]

41 minutes ago, Bluetooth said:

our best players are not getting enough snaps, 

we can't tell if we suck or our coaches are putting to much on the people they WANT TO SEE succeed.

We not playing to our strengths , because our COACHES don't know our weakest. 

The fact Mingo hasn't transition so far, slows down TMJ progress from last year, and then they go get Smith-Marsette(DJ Chark lite but explosive with better route running ability)

We saw a run play design for Sanders(who runs into his own blockers) that LS actually made work for 6-7 yards, and even with the play design, I think the WR motions in for an extra block, it's so easy to see it's coming.

Crazy thing is, we run the same formation, the same play but actually think we fooling someone to thinking we ain't that dumb to run the same play over again, and if we do change it up, the ball is going to the WR on a motion. 

We not putting the right guys together to win.

Chinn should be playing at least 90% of the time, TMJ should be getting more snaps than Mingo(who hasn't shown enough to earn his spot). which leads me to believe players see there's a COACH FAVORITE. It's hard to play for a Coach/Team that doesn't believe in you from the start. Hell, they can't even get enough reps to garner interest from other teams bc of lack of play.

 

Lions OC Johnson was taking advantage of Chinn being a liability in coverage by purposefully matching him up vs Sam LaPorta 

[WhoKnows]

4 minutes ago, Bluetooth said:

TMJ started making plays last year, after RHULE GOT CANNED remember, he wasn't been used correctly.

 

I mean DJ MOORE wasn't even consider a legit 1WR here let that sink in

C’mon. TMJ has 1 TD in 31 games. Don’t compare him to Moore. Moore was considered a WR1, but he wasn’t considered one of the elite top 10 guys. Well, he sure seems to have taken that jump but still he was so far beyond TMJ.

First 3 years:

TMJ 61-742-1TD

DJ 208-3165-10TD

KB 184-2641-19TD

Funchess 117-1684-17TD

Funchess and KB were considered busts and they blew away TMJ. Also, Moore and KB were late 1st rounders and Funchess was a 2nd rounder like TMJ. These guys should all have similar expectations as they weren’t top picks like Chase.

 

[*FreeFua*]

1 hour ago, Bluetooth said:

our best players are not getting enough snaps, 

we can't tell if we suck or our coaches are putting to much on the people they WANT TO SEE succeed.

We not playing to our strengths , because our COACHES don't know our weakest. 

The fact Mingo hasn't transition so far, slows down TMJ progress from last year, and then they go get Smith-Marsette(DJ Chark lite but explosive with better route running ability)

We saw a run play design for Sanders(who runs into his own blockers) that LS actually made work for 6-7 yards, and even with the play design, I think the WR motions in for an extra block, it's so easy to see it's coming.

Crazy thing is, we run the same formation, the same play but actually think we fooling someone to thinking we ain't that dumb to run the same play over again, and if we do change it up, the ball is going to the WR on a motion. 

We not putting the right guys together to win.

Chinn should be playing at least 90% of the time, TMJ should be getting more snaps than Mingo(who hasn't shown enough to earn his spot). which leads me to believe players see there's a COACH FAVORITE. It's hard to play for a Coach/Team that doesn't believe in you from the start. Hell, they can't even get enough reps to garner interest from other teams bc of lack of play.

 

And where would you like them to hide Chinn 90% of the time?

[CPF4LIFE]

I never noticed chinn at all yesterday, just go ahead and put him on the trading block too. 

[Waldo]

Trade block or just more garbage management? The mystery continues. Whatever the master plan is, I am not expecting good things. 

[Waldo]

11 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

And where would you like them to hide Chinn 90% of the time?

SS for at least a game. If he can't make it there then I'm not sure where he fits in the NFL regardless of talent. 

[PleaseCutStewart]

48 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Lions OC Johnson was taking advantage of Chinn being a liability in coverage by purposefully matching him up vs Sam LaPorta 

And who behind him can cover better? Especially with practically our entire starting secondary not playing yesterday.

We still don't utilize Chinn correctly. We need to have him do a variety of things so defenses won't always know that he is covering the TE/RB (versatility was our biggest argument for why we drafted him in the first place). He should either be blitzing or playing some type of zone coverage (flats or middle zone to cover slants) in obvious passing downs while helping with the run on 1st and short yardage situations.

Honestly no excuse for him only being on the field for 30% of the snaps when he was probably like our 3rd or 4th most talented player on D yesterday because of all the injuries to our D

[TylerDurden]

To go from what Chinn did his rookie year to getting 18 snaps now...  this poo is baffling.

And we're even thin at MLB.  Why not move him back there?

[RumHam]

"Crazy thing is, we run the same formation, the same play but actually think we fooling someone to thinking we ain't that dumb to run the same play over again, and if we do change it up, the ball is going to the WR on a motion. "

It is amazing that no matter the coach here, this seems to happen. I don't know why. Never forget, John Fox said a punt is a good play.