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1 minute ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Completely agree and i love Smitty but He was wrong and he is my favorite player. I can separate the two.  He is not a good evaluator just cuz he played the game. 

To be fair in a more recent video where he was trying to defend Bryce he did admit he doesn’t know the ins and outs of QBs because he’s never been in the QB room and never played it at any level. So he acknowledged he doesnt have a super informed take. I think his wanting Carolina to succeed influenced his comments. 

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Just now, ForJimmy said:

He doesn’t want to go in a draft with Maye and Williams. 2025 can be all about Sanders plus he will be playing on a much better roster. Honestly having him at QB will attract a lot of transfer portal players. 

It won't be all about Sanders if the wheels fall off in Boulder. The gold plating is falling off and now we're looking at lead.

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It's like the Cam draft... minus Cam.

Look at our 3 drafts since Fitterer has been here. Sure Rhule was a factor BUT after seeing this years draft it’s hard to give Fitterer much of a pass. This years draft was just like the 2 before it. 

3 consecutive drafts without anything to show for it. It’s not hard to figure out why we are where we are

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Just now, *FreeFua* said:

Look at our 3 drafts since Fitterer has been here. Sure Rhule was a factor BUT after seeing this years draft it’s hard to give Fitterer much of a pass. This years draft was just like the 2 before it. 

3 consecutive drafts without anything to show for it. It’s not hard to figure out why we are where we are

Just straight trash. If you want to understand how we're so bad, just look at our drafts.

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3 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I think he generally does a pretty good job evaluating receivers but I really think he got caught up in defending a guy taking criticisms for lack of size. That feels personal and hits close to home for Smitty.

You are correct. I think a lot of people took it personal with bryce more than the actual analysis, thats not talked about enough.

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4 minutes ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Completely agree and i love Smitty but He was wrong and he is my favorite player. I can separate the two.  He is not a good evaluator just cuz he played the game. 

At this point, anyone (former player or not) who is attached to this team or in any capacity being compensated by our owner needs to not be trusted. 

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3 minutes ago, Knaakedup said:

At this point, anyone (former player or not) who is attached to this team or in any capacity being compensated by our owner needs to not be trusted. 

Looking back a few weeks ago and that podcast or show or whatever he was on and he went all in on defending tepper is peak cringe at this point

 

 

total cringe

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As soon as Bryce showed up to the combine just to weigh in with an extra 20 pounds of water weight should have been all teams needed to see to take him off their first round draft board. The choice to take CJ at 1 should have been cemented right then and there.

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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

It won't be all about Sanders if the wheels fall off in Boulder. The gold plating is falling off and now we're looking at lead.

I don’t think so. They were a bottom tier team and Deon immediately made them competitive and gave them a lot of confidence. I hear waaay more people talking about Colorado that I have in a long time. I think they are bringing in Warren Sapp as an assistant which will help with recruiting. Their roster is just incomplete at the moment. They are definitely on the rise. Bring back your star QB and what college player isn’t going to want to play there? 

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