Albert Breer: both Reich and Fitterer back in ‘24

[OldhamA]

1 hour ago, SOJA said:

To be clear this would not be my plan HOWEVER what GM and HC combo wants to come to the Panthers this offseason. Chicago is a vastly more appealing destination for a HC and almost every GM spot that will be open in the league will have the benefit of having a first rounder and won't be on the worst team in the league. 

If we make Fitty swear not to trade future picks CAR will be MUCH more appealing as a destination the year after regardless of how next season goes. 

Hiring a HC / GM is like the Draft. It's a crapshoot. The best Co-ordinators don't always make the best HCs, that hot Assistant GM isn't always the best choice for GM.

Tepper needs to hire a consultant and get the f' out of the way. 

Edited November 14, 2023 by OldhamA

[ForJimmy]

44 minutes ago, OldhamA said:

Hiring a HC / GM is like the Draft. It's a crapshoot. The best Co-ordinators don't always make the best HCs, that hot Assistant GM isn't always the best choice for GM.

Tepper needs to hire a consultant and get the f' out of the way. 

[Frank9999]

Eh I think its highly likely both are gone after the season

[MechaZain]

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Here's the thing...

Whether or not David Tepper influenced the pick of Bryce Young, he absolutely and wholeheartedly signed on to it.

That means any admission that Young was a mistake is a tacit admission that he made a mistake.

And naturally, that's impossible

So then who do you blame? The GM who only did what you either influenced or agreed with, or the coach who's responsible for the product on the field?

If what one of our folks with inside connections reported about Fitterer being organizationally "close" to Tepper is true, that potentially colors all future moves.

If Fitt’s fired it’ll be because of his career here not because of the QB choice. Bryce was a group decision there won’t be a fall guy. 

[onmyown]

12 hours ago, amcoolio said:

Fitterrer has been absolutely disastrous in the draft, one of the worst track records in NFL history, there's no way you can let him make the picks in 2024

This was obvious when he was hired for some of us, he is/was unqualified, weird how the huddles’ opinion of him has morphed yet his dumbassery started day 1.

[onmyown]

3 hours ago, Dorian Gray said:

You can't hire a new GM and force him to keep Frank, that's asinine. You either keep them both, or can them both. It's a shid sandwich of a situation because if you fire them both, you're probably not going to get any good names interested because we don't have a first round pick and it looks like Tepper has no patience and will fire you for one bad year. If you don't fire them both, Fitt will start making desperation trades to save his job which will tank our future even further, while it's clear Frank has no idea how to develop Bryce.

An absolute mess with Tepper as the garbage architect. 

If we are on track, Tepper should be learning that order soon, 6 years to learn what everyone already knew…probably another 4 or so before he learns he didn’t know better tho.

[Mr. Scot]

8 minutes ago, MechaZain said:

If Fitt’s fired it’ll be because of his career here not because of the QB choice. Bryce was a group decision there won’t be a fall guy. 

That means blaming him for the Rhule years though. Would that really be a fair thing to do?

Besides that question though, we came out of the Rhule situation with pepper deciding to give more power to Fitterer.

Does he change his mind on that this quickly?

[Dave Gettleman's Shorts]

damn this feels like deja vu.

oh wait, that was last season with rhule

[CanMan11]

They both HAVE to be back in '24 regardless of how bad this season gets because you can't tell the new HC / GM .. you have to keep PeeWee as your starter .. no GM / HC wants to work w/ PeeWee

[SOJA]

3 hours ago, OldhamA said:

Hiring a HC / GM is like the Draft. It's a crapshoot. The best Co-ordinators don't always make the best HCs, that hot Assistant GM isn't always the best choice for GM.

Tepper needs to hire a consultant and get the f' out of the way. 

oh I totally agree, I'm more than tired of meddling tepper 

[MechaZain]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

That means blaming him for the Rhule years though. Would that really be a fair thing to do?

Besides that question though, we came out of the Rhule situation with pepper deciding to give more power to Fitterer.

Does he change his mind on that this quickly?

Outside of financial details I don't think there's any decision you can peg solely on Fitterer. He doesn't strike me as that type of GM.

He was spared because it was mostly on Rhule but he definitely shouldn't get a free pass on those years. Empowering him was about giving him the chance to clean up the mess he helped make. If he can't do that he's next on the chopping block.

[MechaZain]

3 hours ago, OldhamA said:

Hiring a HC / GM is like the Draft. It's a crapshoot. The best Co-ordinators don't always make the best HCs, that hot Assistant GM isn't always the best choice for GM.

Tepper needs to hire a consultant and get the f' out of the way. 

If he can't hire a good GM how's he's going to pick a consultant with even more responsibilty?

[RJK]

People keep calling Tepper a knee jerk owner but he’s really not. He makes a decision and gives it a chance. His decision making is just cheeks and this team will look identical next year

[ForJimmy]

People thinking no candidates will come here need to look at Dorsey in Buffalo.  He was a HC candidate last year now he is a fired OC.  You take you chances when you have them because a lot can change quickly....