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The Texans Team as a Whole


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8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

He wasn't the only one reporting this.

Back during pre-draft days, pretty much everyone believed the Texans had Young as their top prospect.

It's not hard to figure out.  We have Houston players talking about how happy they are now that they won that meaningless game last year to drop to 2nd.  If Stroud was their guy they would just pick him at 1 if they didn't win.  We have Ryans saying he had Stroud and Young as 1A and 1B.  If Stroud was his guy all along he would happily say so.  He either liked Young or it was truly 50/50.  Young was a popular choice as QB1 in this draft.  

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9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

He wasn't the only one reporting this.

Back during pre-draft days, pretty much everyone believed the Texans had Young as their top prospect.

Definitely not saying he was the only one, but ideas spread, then those who choose to adopt those ideas mentally own them as “theirs” and defend them. Sometimes in obvious ways. Sometimes in slick ways. 
 

“Texans wanted Young but they will never admit it” is a pointless thing to say, and comes off like saying “see it wasn’t just me, everyone else too.”

 

It softens the feeling of “being wrong.” An ego massaging trick. 

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4 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

It's not hard to figure out.  We have Houston players talking about how happy they are now that they won that meaningless game last year to drop to 2nd.  If Stroud was their guy they would just pick him at 1 if they didn't win.  We have Ryans saying he had Stroud and Young as 1A and 1B.  If Stroud was his guy all along he would happily say so.  He either liked Young or it was truly 50/50.  Young was a popular choice as QB1 in this draft.  

Which reminds me: everyone likes to call out Chris Simms on his misses, but he definitely appears correct on his Stroud/Young take. 

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50 minutes ago, Wundrbread33 said:

Perhaps he’s saving face because he liked Bryce…

 

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Unless things change, it’s gonna be clear everyone was under a collective delusion that a wonderic test can make up for a lack of physical talent.

Stroud is undoubtably elevating everyone around him. Young isn’t. That can change but it’s the case right now.

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35 minutes ago, Wundrbread33 said:

Which reminds me: everyone likes to call out Chris Simms on his misses, but he definitely appears correct on his Stroud/Young take. 

Missed on Corral/Wilson. Nailed it on Mahomes/Stroud. 

Also it's not like he wasn't high on Young.  He just loved Stroud and rightfully so.

https://www.skysports.com/nfl/news/12118/12865148/2023-nfl-draft-chris-simms-top-five-quarterback-prospects

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15 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Missed on Corral/Wilson. Nailed it on Mahomes/Stroud. 

Also it's not like he wasn't high on Young.  He just loved Stroud and rightfully so.

https://www.skysports.com/nfl/news/12118/12865148/2023-nfl-draft-chris-simms-top-five-quarterback-prospects

I respect the hell of simms for doing his own ranks and not patrioting like 99% of these draft gurus do. 

Plus LOL at alll the hate he gets for being wrong a couple times, he is suppose to be perfect??  Everyone has misses, he does seem to off the "normal" path and get it right solo. Sorta like smitty about WRs. 

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2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

I've been a fan of Schultz since he was with the Cowboys.

hurst was signed in first few days of FA while Schultz ended up having to take a one year prove it deal later in FA. would have been a great security blanket for Bryce instead, we ended up signing an inconsistent and older TE on his fourth team for more future cap hit and less production

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3 minutes ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

People bitch about Bryce over Stroud, but how about Mingo over Dell?

As a neutral fiterererererer fan, you can do that with any 2-7 round picks.......feeels like the herinay era in that regards... 

Mingo should be a big part of 2024 plans as well, good or bad.....

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