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6 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

They won't trade Burns now because the compensation will be so grossly inadequate compared to the Ram's package that the mockery would be absolutely savage.  The only way to save face is not to trade him and stick to the "off the table" trade stance.

That’s why you replace Fitt. New GM won’t care what Fitt turned down. 

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20 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Bryce’s presser right now

 

 

um you know it’s a feel 

um you know it’s a really good defense you know

um I can do better um we trying to be a good offense you know um

um I can control what I can control 

its um you know it’s um you know ik have faith in my teammates.  

Why are you watching that poo? Also why do you care how he is speaking? The man just got destroyed and played poorly. Im sure he wants to go home and ice his wounds…

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Just now, ForJimmy said:

That’s why you replace Fitt. New GM won’t care what Fitt turned down. 

For all the crap Frank is catching for his coaching, Fitterer should be the first to go, like ASAP.  This roster was mostly his baby.  I tried to give him the benefit of a doubt due to Rhule having 'roster control.'  However, the moves he's made even since Rhule's dismissal have been questionable.

This is the time of season when the real digging for scouts starts.  Better to ditch him now before any 2024 draft compilation starts in earnest where Scott has input.

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1 minute ago, 45catfan said:

For all the crap Frank is catching for his coaching, Fitterer should be the first to go, like ASAP.  This roster was mostly his baby.  I tried to give him the benefit of a doubt due to Rhule having 'roster control.'  However, the moves he's made even since Rhule's dismissal have been questionable.

This is the time of season when the real digging for scouts starts.  Better to ditch him now before any 2024 draft compilation starts in earnest where Scott has input.

Yep let Morgan be interim until we can find a good GM this offseason. Most importantly Tepper needs to let this new GM do his job with minimal interruptions/ suggestions. Hire the right person and trust them. 
Reich needs to go because his whole offense has aged out of the new NFL. Let Staley be HC for the next couple years. New GM can pick his guy in 25 if things aren’t better. 

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18 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

They won't trade Burns now because the compensation will be so grossly inadequate compared to the Ram's package that the mockery would be absolutely savage.  The only way to save face is not to trade him and stick to the "off the table" trade stance.

I thought about it some and I would trade Burns for a top 10 pick in a heart beat. I'd use that pick to draft the best WR available or Bowers if he's still available. I'd use the rest of the picks on Oline.

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9 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Yep let Morgan be interim until we can find a good GM this offseason. Most importantly Tepper needs to let this new GM do his job with minimal interruptions/ suggestions. Hire the right person and trust them. 
Reich needs to go because his whole offense has aged out of the new NFL. Let Staley be HC for the next couple years. New GM can pick his guy in 25 if things aren’t better. 

That would be unfair, but I understand it.  Dude got a crap roster, a rookie QB and one that's looking like a bust.  Add on to the fact he was sold on this veteran defense--one that was suppose to take pressure off the offense looking like a M*A*S*H ward adds to the frustration. Scheme is not why this offense sucks right now, it's the players playing like poo that's main culprit and the back seven of the defense tag teaming turns on the IR.

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9 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Weren’t you high on Tank Dell as well? You’ve made some good calls on draft picks.

My pound the table guys have been looking great, won't lie.  Biggest draft crushes were basically Zay, JuJu Brents, Tuli, Sam LaPorta, & Tyjae Spears.  

WR wise, loved a handful--Flowers, Dell, Downs, Ty Scott, and Iosivas. Wasn't a big QJ fan. 

 

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