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Bryce is getting David Carr'd

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1 minute ago, Bear Hands said:

If anyone wants some minor relief, Levis is a complete deer in the headlights today.  Looks awful.

His first game where he just launches PA bombs was obviously not a proper sample size.  Playing full games, needing to create drives, he's got some issues.  

Titans OL is a mess right now too. I live in TN and many of their fans were upset about how bad their OL is. 

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1 hour ago, Zod said:

And it's a damn shame to witness week in and week out. 

Bryce can't play under center. This is a failure from ownership to the coaching staff. I won't even blame Fitterer because it's become apparent that Tepper organized the trade, pushed to draft Young, and hired Reich. 

Young is short. You can't run exclusively out of the shotgun in the NFL and win. That is, in part, Bryce's fault. No need to feel bad for him he's such a hyper processor and so much like Patrick Mahomes or Chris Paul that he should be able to dish the rock to anyone from any Arm angle, right? 

SEC! SEC! Just like the NFL, I hears.

Morons.

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1 hour ago, TheBigKat said:

he should have never been the pick... never!

As ticked as people are, hindsight is a bitch, and nobody knows if the Texans are having to run a simplified playbook for Stroud that will eventually get figured out.  There's multiple sources saying the Texans would've made the same pick at #1 as us. I don't care how good Stroud looks now, that Wonderlic score was ridiculous and the team was right to question if he had the intelligence to play in the NFL. 

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1 minute ago, Panther0221 said:

As ticked as people are, hindsight is a bitch, and nobody knows if the Texans are having to run a simplified playbook for Stroud that will eventually get figured out.  There's multiple sources saying the Texans would've made the same pick at #1 as us. I don't care how good Stroud looks now, that Wonderlic score was ridiculous and the team was right to question if he had the intelligence to play in the NFL. 

It's not hindsight. Everyone was hyping Stroud until that stupid S2 test was released. CJ is getting it done, BY isn't. 

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1 minute ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

It's not hindsight. Everyone was hyping Stroud until that stupid S2 test was released. CJ is getting it done, BY isn't. 

And the team that took him intended to take Bryce Young if he was available. Teams interview these players too, it's not like we were the only team in the NFL to show concern.

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4 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

It's not hindsight. Everyone was hyping Stroud until that stupid S2 test was released. CJ is getting it done, BY isn't. 

Yeah. We all, and by we all I mean reasonable people, knew the assignment. The others were Alabama fanboys. Facts dictate that you don't trade up to the top of the first round for a QB because as important as QB is, the price is too steep and odds are that you'll miss.

I hope Tepper is happy. This is on him. It's not Fitterer. It's not Reich. It's squarely on Tepper. Unless he fires himself, this will not get better.

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1 minute ago, Panther0221 said:

And the team that took him intended to take Bryce Young if he was available. Teams interview these players too, it's not like we were the only team in the NFL to show concern.

You don't know that they would've taken Bryce. They may have taken Richardson. 

1. Stroud

2. Richardson

3. Levis

4. Hooker

5. DTR

6. Young

If Bryce had gone anywhere other than Alabama, this would've been the draft order.

 

 

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