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Bryce = JOSH ROSEN


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9 minutes ago, Wundrbread33 said:

I’ll take the next front office seriously if they correctly “Rosen” Bryce. No sense waiting 2-3 years for a guy without NFL physical ability to develop.

 

 

Right what is the point in waiting. If he isn’t the guy just move on. Nobody wants to sit through this another season. 

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At this point yeah I would take a hard look at another young QB in next years draft.

But I think regardless we are doomed. Tepper thinks he has actual football knowledge and I don't see him removing himself from the equation whether it's Fitterer and Reich or any other combination of possible replacement hires.

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1 hour ago, 45catfan said:

Penix Jr. at #33?

We need to do what you were hoping we would do last year. Add weapons and talent to this offense. Just roll with Young again in 24 and he either develops with better weapons or leaders us to Sanders/Ewers/Allar or whoever in 2025. Looks like Daniels is returning for Kansas as well. 

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1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Actually the opposite. Rosen had high level physical talent he was just a cocky, uncoachable prick. Bryce is a good dude who just lacks NFL talent.

Yup

 

1 hour ago, Jaxel said:

Like I said, draft Milton or Rattler in like the 5th as insurance.

This is more reasonable and more likely than us blowing our R2 on a qb after just drafting Bryce however bad he is this year. We definitely need some competition in the QB room

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1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

We need to do what you were hoping we would do last year. Add weapons and talent to this offense. Just roll with Young again in 24 and he either develops with better weapons or leaders us to Sanders/Ewers/Allar or whoever in 2025. Looks like Daniels is returning for Kansas as well. 

That plan was for building the offensive skill positions in order to draft a #1 QB in 2024.  Change of tactics now because we put the cart in front of the horse.  Colossal f-up this past draft. 

You all know I'm pretty active here.  Anyone recollect me being excited or even posting about a) the trade to #1 or b) drafting Bruce Young?

That's because I wasn't excited--AT ALL--about either of the moves, so I avoided posting about it.

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    • I guess so. Don't think I was involved with previous discussions.  Tepper is one of the newest owners in the NFL. Dan is going into his 3rd season as a GM - ever. Dave is going into his 3rd season as a HC - ever. Before becoming a HC, he was an OC/playcaller for one season total. Idzik is about to go into his 1st year as a play caller - ever. WRs are rookies, sophomores and 3rd year guys - though the experienced 3rd year guys are XL and Coker (who has missed a ton of games). TEs are guys going into their 2nd and 3rd seasons, and Tommy Tremble - though Sanders has missed a ton of games. QB has played 3 years. Chuba is an experienced RB, but Brooks and Etienne have taken very little snaps at the position. O-line is more experienced vets with some talent - which is HUGE. Need them to stay healthy. I mean the offense is very young in every aspect except O-line. You see it differently?
    • I said this ALL last season and will say it again this year. Our record means diddly squat this year, I don't care if we have 0 wins or 17 wins, I only care about one thing and one thing only. Bryce proves without a shadow of a doubt that he IS or ISN'T our long term solution at QB. It's the only thing that matters for the same reason it sucks that this is the same thing as last year.  This needs to be determined, and if they can't determine it, then it's still telling the team the answer, just not the one they want to hear. As right now we're in the ultimate QB purgatory, a position that dooms franchises for years.  Just look at a team like the Cardinals, who extended a better QB and it still screwed them over and haven't had a contending team in a long time. People get too caught up on wins and losses when evaluating players, particularly QBs.  When people look at the final record and use that as a reason to want to extend a QB or not is just a fools errand.  If we had lost 2-3 more games last year because we didn't make a last second FG, I genuinely wonder if we would have just moved on from Bryce this offseason (like we should have been doing anyways IMHO).
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