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New Coach, New Starting QB?


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37 minutes ago, RumHam said:

Can we finally get Dalton in there?

What do we accomplish with that? The fact of the matter is that you mortgaged your future for Young, whether it was Reich, Fitterer, or Tepper. You have to go with what you have, unless you can dump Bryce for a late 1st Round pick or something.

Imagine a world where we don't trade up for Bryce, and we have a shot at Jayden Daniels, Caleb Williams, Drake Maye, or Bo Nix.

This is why owners don't make personnel decisions. The decisions for the 2024 QB Class are infinitely better than they were in 2023.

1. Daniels

2. Stroud

3. Maye

4. Williams

5. Nix

6. Richardson

7. DTR

8. O'Connel

9. Young?

Like he is so far down this list it's ridiculous. 

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1 minute ago, CPcavedweller said:

What do we accomplish with that?  

Not totally destroying the locker room, not totally destroying the fanbase. When the backup is noticeably better than the starter it creates a toxic environment. How hard would you play if you knew there was almost zero percent chance of winning?

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Gotta ride out the season with Young. If he still looks like Teddy 2 Gloves-lite…then I’m heavily considering trading back into the 1st for a QB I like in this draft (if I’m the GM/coach. Bare minimum, we need to take a flyer on a QB somewhere in the draft. Maybe a Howell with good tools drops in the draft.

 

This kid, at the very least, needs competition in camp. 
 

You don’t have a QB until you do. That was my argument to keep Corral around as a backup option. I was wrong on that player, but I do think it’s the right call to have another young signal caller around to develop.

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3 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

Not totally destroying the locker room, not totally destroying the fanbase. When the backup is noticeably better than the starter it creates a toxic environment. How hard would you play if you knew there was almost zero percent chance of winning?

No one is mad that Young is starting over Dalton. Not only was Bryce taken number one, but we gave up another number one, a number two, and a play worth a number one. You almost have to give him experience. Hell, I don't like it either but there is no point in cutting bait right now considering everything is guaranteed from the picks given to his salary. 

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4 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

Not totally destroying the locker room, not totally destroying the fanbase. When the backup is noticeably better than the starter it creates a toxic environment. How hard would you play if you knew there was almost zero percent chance of winning?

Admitting they made a huge mistake and making the most of it.

This ain't that time yet but it looks unavoidable 

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12 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

What do we accomplish with that?

If we hold our trajectory and give the bears the #1 overall pick that is going to be the ultimate embarrassment and will continue to be talked/laughed about for years.  I for one would like to avoid at all costs setting the fuging bears up with that type of draft capital.  But thats me

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Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

Zero chance. Hell, I wouldn't be surprised I. The least of the final straw for Reich was suggesting to Tepper that Bryce should be benched.

Yup. He wanted to win and deal with that bag next season if he survived. 

Probably the best move he made as the Panther's HC, it made him an easy $30 million to be unemployed (along with that Colts money lol) and people came flocking to his defense. 

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The only priority right now is building up the rest of the roster, you have to give Bryce at least one more season. Let’s be real the rest of the roster is so dreadful anyways it’s not like this over complicates things. If we’re not seeing growth next year we can start talking about other options,  but he is the surefire starter heading into next season 

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1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

If we hold our trajectory and give the bears the #1 overall pick that is going to be the ultimate embarrassment and will continue to be talked/laughed about for years.  I for one would like to avoid at all costs setting the fuging bears up with that type of draft capital.  But thats me

No one around Tepper will tell him that so he can't see it coming yet...

It's going to be fun to hear them talk endlessly about all of that and the players who could have been drafted with that #1. It's going to be brutal if they can't turn it around with the moves they are making today (They won't lol).

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6 minutes ago, Wundrbread33 said:

Gotta ride out the season with Young. If he still looks like Teddy 2 Gloves-lite…then I’m heavily considering trading back into the 1st for a QB I like in this draft (if I’m the GM/coach. Bare minimum, we need to take a flyer on a QB somewhere in the draft. Maybe a Howell with good tools drops in the draft.

 

This kid, at the very least, needs competition in camp. 
 

You don’t have a QB until you do. That was my argument to keep Corral around as a backup option. I was wrong on that player, but I do think it’s the right call to have another young signal caller around to develop.

Trade back into the first with what?!?!  More future firsts?!?!?!

It clearly didn't work doing that when we traded up for the #1 pick, which is then costing us another #1 overall pick because of it.

But sure, let's go ahead and give up another Top 5 pick next year and potentially more to move into the back end of the 1st round to take the 5th best QB prospect in this class and have even less draft picks to help build a team around them.

That makes sense

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