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Carolina Definitely Chose the Wrong QB


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8 minutes ago, Shocker said:

False.  Many had Young and Stroud at best even.  Most people were worried about size and durability but that turned into nothing.  Carolina sucks top to bottom and Young can’t overcome the entire train wreck in his rookie season.  This idea is really stupid actually 

Stroud was by a significant margin being talked up for months before the draft by many people here as someone we should try to get.

Who was pounding the table for Bryce Young last fall?

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First, not sure we need to start a new thread each time. Stroud looks amazing, better than I even anticipated. With that said, coaching matters. His coaches have put him in a position to succeed. He’s clearly talented but I don’t believe he would have had the same season here. 

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12 minutes ago, Shocker said:

False.  Many had Young and Stroud at best even.  Most people were worried about size and durability but that turned into nothing.  Carolina sucks top to bottom and Young can’t overcome the entire train wreck in his rookie season.  This idea is really stupid actually 

To my recollection, people weren't touting for Bryce, but rather content if he were to be the pick. I think people starting accepting it after news starting coming out that Tepper really liked Bryce and after the S2 scores started being leaked.

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2 minutes ago, frankw said:

Stroud was by a significant margin being talked up for months before the draft by many people here as someone we should try to get.

Who was pounding the table for Bryce Young last fall?

To be fair, nobody thought we’d have a shot as he was the presumed #1 pick.

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I was huge on Stroud after the trade and was open about my disappointment with us going with Bryce pre-draft.

Now I never thought CJ would be this good, this soon. But I feel fully vindicated but also a painful topic because of what could have been.

Tepper owes the fans an apology for passing on Stroud. He was clearly the right choice pre-draft, he was the one who you had to do the least amount of question marks and excuses for. So stupid.

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2 minutes ago, Castavar said:

To my recollection, people weren't touting for Bryce, but rather content if he were to be the pick. I think people starting accepting it after news starting coming out that Tepper really liked Bryce and after the S2 scores started being leaked.

False…just wrong.  I don’t really care cuz anyone trying to put this on a 22 year old rookie is way past convincing 

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1 minute ago, Shocker said:

False…just wrong.  I don’t really care cuz anyone trying to put this on a 22 year old rookie is way past convincing 

I mean, it really doesn't matter anymore. In the end, we picked the wrong QB. This will be a franchise altering decision for the next decade+.

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3 minutes ago, Castavar said:

I mean, it really doesn't matter anymore. In the end, we picked the wrong QB. This will be a franchise altering decision for the next decade+.

You are bipolar…see a doctor.  Because one thing is great does not mean another cannot be great.  Time is a linear thing not a point.  Seek help

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Just now, Shocker said:

You are bipolar…see a doctor.  Because one thing is great does not mean another cannot be great.  Time is a linear thing not a point.  Seek help

I mean, if this is how you cope, you do you.

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