Jump to content

  • Welcome!

    Register and log in easily with Twitter or Google accounts!

    Or simply create a new Huddle account. 

    Members receive fewer ads , access our dark theme, and the ability to join the discussion!

     

Joe Person: The Tepper Graveyard

Mr. Scot

By Mr. Scot,
in Carolina Panthers

 Share

Recommended Posts

Waldo Grand Master

Waldo

Posted
Posted
Just now, csx said:

He scouted the transition to 3-4. That we know. We get it Waldo, the Panthers suck but at some point you need to offe lr something beyond repeating 1 of 2 or 3 things over and over again.

We also know the pro personnel he signed as the pro personnel guy and it was awful.

There is nothing else to offer because that is all we are given and if people are already making up cope then it needs to keep being said apparently. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Shocker Grand Master

Shocker

Posted
Posted
1 minute ago, Tr3ach said:

I wanted to fully clean house but my main question about adding a cap/contract guy, isn't Samir Suleiman still employed here?  Thats entirely what hes done I thought. 

Morgan is a talent evaluator and I say that very loosely.  He thinks the cap is what you wear when it’s raining

  • The D 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Waldo Grand Master

Waldo

Posted
Posted (edited)
11 minutes ago, Tr3ach said:

I wanted to fully clean house but my main question about adding a cap/contract guy, isn't Samir Suleiman still employed here?  Thats entirely what hes done I thought. 

It's honestly probably just Tepper pushing more analytics into the system. He doesn't see the issue as player evaluation problems but some number his people need to find to make it all work. It's been a common theme with him trying to mine the magical numbers that help turn his failures into success. 

No idea what SS is doing anymore. The contracts have looked like crap after the Moore extension so maybe not having him handling contracts anymore is a good thing. 

Edited by Waldo
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Mr. Scot Grand Master

Mr. Scot

Posted
  • Author
Posted
1 hour ago, CRA said:

I love how some claimed Caldwell and Frank were BFFs and Morgan and Fitterer were BFFs.  

They were...and by all accounts still are.

From the article (quoted above)

Morgan worked alongside Fitterer for eight seasons with the Seattle Seahawks, which coincided with the best stretch in that franchise’s history. After a three-year stint with Brandon Beane in Buffalo, Morgan returned to Charlotte as the assistant GM in 2021 four months after Fitterer was hired. The two bought homes in the same neighborhood, went on scouting trips together and were key decision-makers for an organization that went an NFL-worst 14-37 over the last three seasons.

Similarly, if you go back to interviews with Morgan when he was first brought aboard, you'll see lots of talk about their relationship, including Morgan crediting Federer with teaching him how to evaluate players.

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Shocker Grand Master

Shocker

Posted
Posted
4 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

They were...and by all accounts still are.

From the article (quoted above)

Morgan worked alongside Fitterer for eight seasons with the Seattle Seahawks, which coincided with the best stretch in that franchise’s history. After a three-year stint with Brandon Beane in Buffalo, Morgan returned to Charlotte as the assistant GM in 2021 four months after Fitterer was hired. The two bought homes in the same neighborhood, went on scouting trips together and were key decision-makers for an organization that went an NFL-worst 14-37 over the last three seasons.

Similarly, if you go back to interviews with Morgan when he was first brought aboard, you'll see lots of talk about their relationship, including Morgan crediting Federer with teaching him how to evaluate players.

Scared Asustad GIF

  • Pie 1
  • Beer 2
Link to comment
Share on other sites
CRA Grand Master

CRA

Posted
Posted
5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

They were...and by all accounts still are.

From the article (quoted above)

Morgan worked alongside Fitterer for eight seasons with the Seattle Seahawks, which coincided with the best stretch in that franchise’s history. After a three-year stint with Brandon Beane in Buffalo, Morgan returned to Charlotte as the assistant GM in 2021 four months after Fitterer was hired. The two bought homes in the same neighborhood, went on scouting trips together and were key decision-makers for an organization that went an NFL-worst 14-37 over the last three seasons.

Similarly, if you go back to interviews with Morgan when he was first brought aboard, you'll see lots of talk about their relationship, including Morgan crediting Federer with teaching him how to evaluate players.

yeah, the Game of Thrones reporting with everyone stabbing folks in the back....and then Caldwell/Morgan left standing with their best friends taking the big hit under the bus really screams best friends for life lol. 

Rich folks in the same field, landing in a new town, and ending up in the same neighborhoods....also isn't some cold hard fact they are blood brothers.  They scouted folks together? Sounds like that was....there literal jobs.  I don't know what they are.  I don't care.  I know the NFL is a nasty business.  I know colleagues being friendly with each other doesn't actually mean anything in the grand scheme.  Because part of that, is just doing the job. 

It certainly sounds like an overly pimped narrative that people made and ran with as they tried to convince themselves that Tepper had it "figured out" going into last season.   The dream staff bologna they sold hard.   Jim Caldwell IMO is giant red flag to this narrative you pimped.  Hindsight is now showing that it is an easy educated guess.....Caldwell likely was someone feeding Tepper stuff and going behind Frank's back and one of the Game of Thrones players.  Which is why he is now employed to continue to consult and advise for Tepper. 

  • Beer 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites
Mr. Scot Grand Master

Mr. Scot

Posted
  • Author
Posted
Just now, CRA said:

yeah, the Game of Thrones reporting with everyone stabbing folks in the back....and then Caldwell/Morgan left standing with their best friends taking the big hit under the bus really screams best friends for life lol. 

Rich folks in the same field, landing in a new town, and ending up in the same neighborhoods....also isn't some cold hard fact they are blood brothers.  They scouted folks together? Sounds like that was....there literal jobs.  I don't know what they are.  I don't care.  I know the NFL is a nasty business.  I know colleagues being friendly with each other doesn't actually mean anything in the grand scheme.  Because part of that, is just doing the job. 

It certainly sounds like an overly pimped narrative that people made and ran with as they tried to convince themselves that Tepper had it "figured out" going into last season.   The dream staff bologna they sold hard.   Jim Caldwell IMO is giant red flag to this narrative you pimped.  Hindsight is now showing that it is an easy educated guess.....Caldwell likely was someone feeding Tepper stuff and going behind Frank's back and one of the Game of Thrones players.  Which is why he is now employed to continue to consult and advise for Tepper. 

Yeah, sure.

I know you're not one to let actual facts cloud your narrative, so... 😄

Link to comment
Share on other sites
CRA Grand Master

CRA

Posted
Posted
3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Yeah, sure.

I know you're not one to let actual facts cloud your narrative, so... 😄

please, feel free to lecture me some more on what great friends Reich and Caldwell are.....and how you factually you know Frank wasn't forced into doing things by Tepper when he took the job lol. 

Link to comment
Share on other sites
Mr. Scot Grand Master

Mr. Scot

Posted
  • Author
Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, CRA said:

please, feel free to lecture me some more on what great friends Reich and Caldwell are.....and how you factually you know Frank wasn't forced into doing things by Tepper when he took the job lol. 

Nah 😄

Between your own admission that you like to argue dumb sh-t, also the fact that a lot of the arguments you put up tend to be dumb sh-t, and throwing in that you'll ignore actual reports in favor of your own uninformed theories, I don't feel the need to waste time and effort with you.

Maybe another time...

Edited by Mr. Scot
Link to comment
Share on other sites
PootieNunu Grand Master

PootieNunu

Posted
Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, Zod said:

So y'all don't understand that Dan Morgan has been steadily rising the ranks of NFL front offices for over a decade now? 

 

 

He rose thru the ranks, made it to assistant GM and sucked.

Then he was promoted just for the hell of it. 

Seems to me he was riding coattails on good teams. 

Would you hire a assistant from a team with a losing record over the past 5 seasons to be your GM? It doesn't make any sense at all. 

How many of the Patriots, Cards, or Commanders guy are being interviewed for open GM positions? 

These guys are normally hired away from successful franchises, not dumpster fires. 

Edited by PootieNunu
  • Pie 1
Link to comment
Share on other sites

Join the conversation

You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.

Guest
Reply to this topic...

×   Pasted as rich text.   Paste as plain text instead

  Only 75 emoji are allowed.

×   Your link has been automatically embedded.   Display as a link instead

×   Your previous content has been restored.   Clear editor

×   You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL.

×
 Share
Go to topic listing

  • PMH4OWPW7JD2TDGWZKTOYL2T3E.jpg

  • Topics

  • Posts

    • toldozer
      Who do you despise more… LaMelo Ball or Bryce Young

      By toldozer · Posted

      Most talented, injury prone softest asshole that doesn't give a fug about the team. I'd take a second and a few guys that give a poo.    Why's your defense better now melo?   I just be tryin now......... And that last about 3 games last year
    • Bama Panther
      Only team with a winning record…

      By Bama Panther · Posted

      I know it can’t be done, but taking out the NE and BUF games turn that differential around. Those two games alone count for a -60 point differential for the Panthers.   The only other loss that was a bit out of hand was the Jacksonville game, which had a -16 differential, and the first ATL win was a +30. All in all, a few lopsided games but most have been close.   All it says is the Panthers aren’t dominating teams when they win, and they have a complete dud of a loss every few games. 
    • Diehardpanth02
      Only team with a winning record…

      By Diehardpanth02 · Posted

      And a negative scoring differential. We have scored 207 points for, and 249 given up. Tells me a lot about this team, some of it good more of it bad. My questions are why do we think that is?    And what can we do differently to start winning more games by a wider margin. It does feel like we are much more competitive this season and for that I am grateful. We are going in the right direction. But what pieces could we add to help us be more well rounded. What can we do to score more points on a regular basis? All speculative obviously, and more future thinking than now because we can’t change what’s already happening. But these numbers worry me a bit for our playoff hopes, because the NFC North, and the West have some pretty good teams and I could see both of those divisions sending two teams to the playoffs. Just thought that was an interesting number when it caught my eye. What say you, you ole miserable panther fans?
×
×
  • Create New...