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Wow, Steve Wilks just released in SF

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I believe the general perception is that Wilks wasn’t as good as Saleh and Ryans. They both were good enough to get HC jobs. I’ve seen some numbers backing up the notion of a strong year for the 49ers defense, and it was. But it didn’t reach the heights it has in the past, despite same or better roster. The expectations for a DC on that team are just so high.

I wish he would have gone there and blown the doors off, but that just didn’t happen.

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52 minutes ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

Dann Quinn got a HC job and his defense got ram rocked in the playoffs by the Packers.

 

Wilks defense makes it to the SB goes to OT vs the greatest QB since Brady and he gets fired.

 

And people wonder why people say minorities coaches are struggling to get HC jobs. This type of stuff has been happening for decades. I choose not to ignore it. 

 

Wilks is just another victim of the system sadly. Maybe he should go to college and just stay out of the NFL.

Football is a team sport. SF defense did not carry the offense to the playoffs. The offense had 2 MVP candidates and one of them ended up being the OPOY. The offense did more than it's fair share. 

Shanahan is a problem in the big games. He stops doing what got him the lead in the first place. I've said before, Wilks called a great game in the SB until the very end when they went into that prevent D and then in OT when Reid took him behind the woodshed. 

Wilks should probably get another shot at being a HC. What happened in AZ wasn't his fault entirely but it certainly carries a stigma. Then there's the number of jobs he's been in in a short period of time. Some guys make great coordinators and crappy HCs. Add the interview process and the plan for building a team. It's hard to say why he hasn't gotten the call again, but I'd say he deserves it a shot. 

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13 minutes ago, Martin said:

I believe the general perception is that Wilks wasn’t as good as Saleh and Ryans. They both were good enough to get HC jobs. I’ve seen some numbers backing up the notion of a strong year for the 49ers defense, and it was. But it didn’t reach the heights it has in the past, despite same or better roster. The expectations for a DC on that team are just so high.

I wish he would have gone there and blown the doors off, but that just didn’t happen.

I he was definitely a step down from Saleh/Ryans but it was a baby step. The hand wringing from their fans during the season was a little absurd.

IMO, this was an incredibly unfair scapegoating for what are ultimately Shanahan's issues. 

I would not be at all surprised to see Shanahan fired within 2 seasons.

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On 2/14/2024 at 7:04 PM, JawnyBlaze said:

Gotta pay attention to tendencies. Has McDermott done it a lot in Buffalo? I honestly don’t know, but it was a problem during Ron’s entire tenure. Wilkes was the same way both times as DC here, during his interim HC time, and as DC in SF. I dunno if he was that way in Arizona but you can see a pattern with Ron and Wilkes. 

oh god yes he has

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22 hours ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Football is a team sport. SF defense did not carry the offense to the playoffs. The offense had 2 MVP candidates and one of them ended up being the OPOY. The offense did more than it's fair share. 

Shanahan is a problem in the big games. He stops doing what got him the lead in the first place. I've said before, Wilks called a great game in the SB until the very end when they went into that prevent D and then in OT when Reid took him behind the woodshed. 

Wilks should probably get another shot at being a HC. What happened in AZ wasn't his fault entirely but it certainly carries a stigma. Then there's the number of jobs he's been in in a short period of time. Some guys make great coordinators and crappy HCs. Add the interview process and the plan for building a team. It's hard to say why he hasn't gotten the call again, but I'd say he deserves it a shot. 

I’d be happy to see Wilkes get a chance to be a HC again, as long as it’s not in Carolina. It would satisfy the curiosity of whether he’d still coach so conservative and scared when he has the reins from day one, or if that was the product of being given the keys to someone else’s ship. Wouldn’t want to take that risk with my team, but it would be interesting to find out. 
 

It would also be another point of data for the question of what makes a better coach these days: a leader of men or a smart football guy. Cuz the only “leader of men” specialists I’ve seen have success lately has been Dan Campbell and probably Harbaugh. Most of the others have been smart and innovative football guys who at a bare minimum excelled as a coordinator before. Reid, McVay, Ryans, Sirianni, Zac Taylor, McDermott, Stefanski, Shanahan. 

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