Burns to reality?

[BeenPounding]

Jones to KC at 31M per year

Madibuke to BAL for 25M per year

Do you think Burns is ready to play ball?

28-29 is the tops he will get.  I would only go that high if there was an out after year two or three.

140M over 5 years with 90M guarantee should get it done.  I'm pretty confident this is all on Burns.  If he can't agree to a contract by Monday I really wouldn't be surprised to see him traded before FA truly begins.

By tomorrow you should see:

• An extension for Moton (4 years)
• Terrance Marshall Cut
• Ian Thomas Cut
• Bozeman restructure or cut (bring him to a reserve lineman's salary)
• Shaq extension (2 year cap savings)
• Dalton traded
• Vonn Bell restructure or extension (cap savings)
• Xavier Woods extension (cap savings)
• Tommy Tremble extension (cap savings plus he is young and cheap)
• Shy Tuttle base salary restructure
• Something done with Corbett's cap figure

FA Targets:

• Damien Lewis (G) Seattle
• Robert Hunt (G) Miami
• Dane Jackson (CB) Buffalo
• Kristian Fulton (CB) Tenn
• A.J. Epenesa (DE) Buffalo
• YGM (OLB) CAR
• Frankie Luvu (LB) CAR
• Gabe Davis (WR) Buffalo
• K.J. Osbourne (WR) Minn
• Donovan Peoples-Jones (WR) DET

Sneaky move:

try to trade for Steven Gilmore's brother out of Detroit for a late round pick.

 

[CamWhoaaCam]

26 mil a year take it or leave it 

[jb2288]

1 minute ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

26 mil a year take it or leave it 

I was here a month ago, I’d go 28 with the cap increase. I just think he’s gonna be hard headed and try to play a card that if a DT is getting 31 he should get at least 30

[CRA]

44 minutes ago, BeenPounding said:

140M over 5 years with 90M guarantee should get it done. .

That’s why you don’t sign Burns.

TJ Watt got 80 guaranteed.  A dude who racks up 22.5, 19, 15, 14 etc sacks seasons and isn’t horrific against the run. 

Crosby got 53, Sweat 62 etc

giving Burns 90-100 million guaranteed is insane given what a very specific specialist he is and isn’t even insane at that. 

Guaranteed is all that matters 

[mrcompletely11]

48 minutes ago, BeenPounding said:

Jones to KC at 31M per year

Madibuke to BAL for 25M per year

Do you think Burns is ready to play ball?

28-29 is the tops he will get.  I would only go that high if there was an out after year two or three.

140M over 5 years with 90M guarantee should get it done.  I'm pretty confident this is all on Burns.  If he can't agree to a contract by Monday I really wouldn't be surprised to see him traded before FA truly begins.

By tomorrow you should see:

• An extension for Moton (4 years)
• Terrance Marshall Cut
• Ian Thomas Cut
• Bozeman restructure or cut (bring him to a reserve lineman's salary)
• Shaq extension (2 year cap savings)
• Dalton traded
• Vonn Bell restructure or extension (cap savings)
• Xavier Woods extension (cap savings)
• Tommy Tremble extension (cap savings plus he is young and cheap)
• Shy Tuttle base salary restructure
• Something done with Corbett's cap figure

FA Targets:

• Damien Lewis (G) Seattle
• Robert Hunt (G) Miami
• Dane Jackson (CB) Buffalo
• Kristian Fulton (CB) Tenn
• A.J. Epenesa (DE) Buffalo
• YGM (OLB) CAR
• Frankie Luvu (LB) CAR
• Gabe Davis (WR) Buffalo
• K.J. Osbourne (WR) Minn
• Donovan Peoples-Jones (WR) DET

Sneaky move:

try to trade for Steven Gilmore's brother out of Detroit for a late round pick.

 

I get the premise extension and cap savings, but we aint winning poo any time soon so I would just rather take our hits and get out from under the bulk of those contracts.  Hopefully, there will be a time when it would be helpful to have a bunch of room to make a big time signing that may put us in a playoff type position.  Continuing to pay the players that we arent winning with doenst make sense

[CamWhoaaCam]

1 hour ago, jb2288 said:

I was here a month ago, I’d go 28 with the cap increase. I just think he’s gonna be hard headed and try to play a card that if a DT is getting 31 he should get at least 30

Chris Jones got 31 and he's a top 3 defensive player no matter the position then Burns should realistically expect less. If he wants 30 mil he can kick rocks.

 

I'm tired of this Burns talk we need to make a decision and move on.

[Captroop]

2 hours ago, BeenPounding said:

Sneaky move:

try to trade for Steven Gilmore's brother out of Detroit for a late round pick.

Fully support this move.

[Proudiddy]

Luvu needs to be kept, no matter the cost.

[Waldo]

He isn't worth a long term contract here and trading him for anything is the best outcome. Spend that money elsewhere and take any picks they can get. I wanted to keep Moore but Burns isn't that. Hell I would have rather kept Reddick than Burns. 

[MHS831]

2 hours ago, CRA said:

Guaranteed is all that matters 

yup

[MHS831]

what was Fitterer doing, besides drugs?

 

I also do not think Burn's market value goes up because the cap did.  The problem with the cap is that it makes only a few players very wealthy.  I would listen to offers, play him on the cap figure.  He will lose 3 million doing that.  If he tanks again and protects his investment, he then has 2 seasons of underperforming--costing him much more $$.  If he plays well, tag him again.  So we have Burns at a deal LOWER than what is proposed here for 2 years.  Throwing money at him is not the solution when we have so many other needs.

Edited March 10 by MHS831

[DeAngelo Beason]

I think Burns is still living under the delusion that he's an elite edge rusher.  

[SOJA]

I like the Panthers are playing hard ball right now with him. If someone blows us away with a trade take it, otherwise resume negotiations this summer. I think 28-29 million a year is a fair deal for both sides. 

[panthers320]

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