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6 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

LMAO

 

With our luck this might be true.

 

We overpaid to get him considering his contract from last season. Dude quadrupled his salary from last season. 

Yeah but only looking at last season is misleading. His average salary the previous four years (not last year) is around 9.2 million, so it's not that far off. One of those years it was 12 mil, so removing that it's like 7.5 to 8. 

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9 hours ago, strato said:

I feel the same, 2023 and prior. Not as sure for 2024 and feel like we are going to see exactly how much Burns was sandbagging. He is going to post numbers.

edit: Dan though, that was a good job. Replaced Burns for less and was paid in picks to do it.

Burns is going to put up impressive sack numbers this year. But taking it easy in 2023 while demanding $30 million a year lost me as a fan of him. I won’t miss him. I will miss Luvu and his energy. 

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15 minutes ago, Panthero said:

Yeah but only looking at last season is misleading. His average salary the previous four years (not last year) is around 9.2 million, so it's not that far off. One of those years it was 12 mil, so removing that it's like 7.5 to 8. 

The market is different now plus we don’t have the Aaron Rodgers or Mahomes factor where players will take less to get a shot at a Super Bowl 

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14 minutes ago, jtm said:

Burns is going to put up impressive sack numbers this year. But taking it easy in 2023 while demanding $30 million a year lost me as a fan of him. I won’t miss him. I will miss Luvu and his energy. 

Maybe. Every year I kept thinking Burns would break out and it never happened. It was same ole, same ole. He would show up for a few snaps a game, maybe get a sack, and then disappear. 
If he does show improvement it will lower my opinion of him even more. 

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11 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

Maybe. Every year I kept thinking Burns would break out and it never happened. It was same ole, same ole. He would show up for a few snaps a game, maybe get a sack, and then disappear. 
If he does show improvement it will lower my opinion of him even more. 

Burns best game will be against us as it is his “prove you wrong” game. And media will eat it up and ignore the rest of his season that will be good, but not great. Certainly not what they paid $30M for.

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33 minutes ago, jtm said:

Burns is going to put up impressive sack numbers this year.

The giants definitely have the talent on the D-Line for Burns to feast but I feel that based on the QB spot situation they're in he'll be in the same spot he was in here where once the other teams puts up 17 points the other offense just runs the ball and goes to quick game passing knowing the game is already out of reach. 

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31 minutes ago, TLGPanthersFan said:

Maybe. Every year I kept thinking Burns would break out and it never happened. It was same ole, same ole. He would show up for a few snaps a game, maybe get a sack, and then disappear. 
If he does show improvement it will lower my opinion of him even more. 

My biggest issue with Burns is that I never looked at a game and said we won that game because of Brian Burns. I'm sorry but if you're making $30 million a season you better be the sole cause of at least a couple of wins a season and not just being a good player on a team that wins occasionally. I expect a similar season from Burns this year where he has a couple of flashy athletic sacks but continues to disappear in long stretches and get overpowered in the run game by opposing TE's. 

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48 minutes ago, jtm said:

The market is different now plus we don’t have the Aaron Rodgers or Mahomes factor where players will take less to get a shot at a Super Bowl 

Fair, my point was even with that his long term average is not far off of what we paid. So a slight overpay for a position we absolutely had to have. I'm cool with it. 

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16 hours ago, rayzor said:

Vs. $30mil for one year and the same production?

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And a better reputation against the run. Something we have desperately needed. 

I really think our work against the run last season was very indicative of how important Shaq Thompson was, not just as a tackler but in getting people in place and setting the tone for the group.

I've never been on the grab Clowney wagon in previous seasons and actually was dismissive of him again this season because I've thought he never played up to the potential that they said he had. He's been good-ish and solid, but not a game breaker. And when I looked at his production versus what BrIan Burns had produced, well, the math is that as sack artists they are pretty much the same, but there's some plus with run defense and we desperately need some veterans out there to bring our young folks along.

In the end, I think he was the right guy at the right time and the trade was a plus overall, not a grand slam or a homerun even, but a solid double that could position us better than we've been in a while. 

Edit to add: Oh yeah, and the money worked out better. 

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9 hours ago, onmyown said:

I think y'all are hyping this a bit much. Ravens had 5 pro bowlers on defense ? And Clowney wasn’t one. He was aloud to feast with that line and a scheme that put him all over because the other team was worried about everyone else.

Meanwhile here in Carolina he is most certainly going to have attention and be doubled up on.

Only plus is the money, he’d have to be very bad if he can’t earn 10 mil. This team still needs a dominant rusher go with the likes of Clowney/Browb to be in contention imo.

bro let us be happy

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1 hour ago, Martin said:

Burns best game will be against us as it is his “prove you wrong” game. And media will eat it up and ignore the rest of his season that will be good, but not great. Certainly not what they paid $30M for.

he might show up, but it won't be as embarrassing as Pepper's or Smitty's first game against us. Those we just painful. 

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