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Hope for TMJ?

MHS831

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TMJ isn't a bad WR. He's better at crossing/posts/flies, rather than the hooks/comebacks/corner routes he was mostly asked to do last year. He isn't good at creating separation early (or late for that matter). So, he probably does need a QB that is less risk adverse. That, or he needs to somehow earn his current QB's trust. 

Just going off heresay, he seems to be talented enough, but maybe not the best teammate. Those things matter. WRs should always try to be best friends with their QB. Trust plays a big factor in getting targets when you're not open. 

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I am all about giving TMJ another year to see what he can do under Canales and Idzik's guidance. Not to make excuses for TMJ because he's brought a good portion of it on himself, but he hasn't been set up to succeed either. 

He has the traits and experience at LSU that you look for and was only 20 when drafted, so he still has time to prove himself. I would give him this year to step up and see if the light has switched on for him yet. No harm in the competition.

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4 hours ago, WhoKnows said:

I don’t think it’s mental. He can’t separate at all when the CBs press him. It’s one thing when it’s college DBs and you have other weapons taking primary focus.

I believe he could separate but he doesn't have the "dawg" in him or desire to put some work in to improve. He has serious tools but something is so odd with him.

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On 4/2/2024 at 3:12 PM, Ricky Prickles said:

I believe he could separate but he doesn't have the "dawg" in him or desire to put some work in to improve. He has serious tools but something is so odd with him.

Some guys don’t have it. It happens to many day 1 and day 2 picks every year. I honestly don’t think he has serious tools.

We harsh on KB and Funchess and they blew away TMJ 3 year stats. Those two had 33 TDs in their first three years compared to TMJ’s 1 TD in three years and KB missed an entire year to injury.

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2 hours ago, WhoKnows said:

Some guys don’t have it. It happens to many day 1 and day 2 picks every year. I honestly don’t think he has serious tools.

We harsh on KB and Funchess and they blew away TMJ 3 year stats. Those two had 33 TDs in their first three years compared to TMJ’s 1 TD in three years and KB missed an entire year to injury.

Good point, agreed 

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Not a good teammate.  Not a Dawg. 

You guys realize he was the 3rd best receiver on the LSU teams? 

 

46 671 14.6 13 41 - 2029

48 731 15.2 10 75 - 2020

His college tape also doesn't agree with these lazy Pabther fans labels. 

1400 yards and 23 touchdowns in 2 seasons. 

The kid can play.  I'm sure if he ever moves on from the Panthers, he'll go back to catching passes from Burrow. 

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I never remember who exactly says what on here, but it amazes me how some guys on the roster get MASSIVE passes for their poor play, sighting an incredible amount of unfounded excuses.  Yet other guys y'all crucify when there is clear evidence that they may have not been the cause.  How does TMJ get a pass when buys like Bryce/Mingo don't?  I'm not directing this at any 1 person, not the creator either.  Trying to see optimism is fine of course - I hope you are right - just the hypocrisy is amazing in some people.

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24 minutes ago, Stingray3030 said:

I never remember who exactly says what on here, but it amazes me how some guys on the roster get MASSIVE passes for their poor play, sighting an incredible amount of unfounded excuses.  Yet other guys y'all crucify when there is clear evidence that they may have not been the cause.  How does TMJ get a pass when buys like Bryce/Mingo don't?  I'm not directing this at any 1 person, not the creator either.  Trying to see optimism is fine of course - I hope you are right - just the hypocrisy is amazing in some people.

Just speculating here but it could be that those 2 have had 1 rookie season to adjust and try to perform while TMJ has had 3. Big difference when trying to form an opinion. 

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17 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Just speculating here but it could be that those 2 have had 1 rookie season to adjust and try to perform while TMJ has had 3. Big difference when trying to form an opinion. 

I agree but you would reasonably expect the opposite to be true - those 2 with only 1 rookie season being seen with optimism and TMJ being seen as a known bust....but not the case.  Many other examples as well from past years.

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Just now, Stingray3030 said:

I agree but you would reasonably expect the opposite to be true - those 2 with only 1 rookie season being seen with optimism and TMJ being seen as a known bust....but not the case.  Many other examples as well from past years.

Well I think you can say TMJ is not working out here. You can call it bust or whatever but the fact remains that he's had plenty enough time to show more than what he has so far. If a wr cannot stand out among his peers in the receiver room on this team in the time he's been here I would say he's not going to cut it in this league. 

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20 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

Well I think you can say TMJ is not working out here. You can call it bust or whatever but the fact remains that he's had plenty enough time to show more than what he has so far. If a wr cannot stand out among his peers in the receiver room on this team in the time he's been here I would say he's not going to cut it in this league. 

100% agree

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This post is one year too late for me, Im out this year.

Huge deal if he could not get even a jersey on game days last year. You can blame coaches or young, but most of the blame goes to TMJ. 

If I was Danny boy, Id be calling other teams asking about their 2020 1-3 round disappointments to trade. Like who knows if a team change could spark either player, but I believe its best for panthers to move on. That said I would not cut him before OTAs or TC, no point unless he turned into a cancer. Don't care about him wanting to be traded either, this is the NFL earn it!

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On 4/4/2024 at 1:06 AM, pantherclaw said:

Not a good teammate.  Not a Dawg. 

You guys realize he was the 3rd best receiver on the LSU teams? 

 

46 671 14.6 13 41 - 2029

48 731 15.2 10 75 - 2020

His college tape also doesn't agree with these lazy Pabther fans labels. 

1400 yards and 23 touchdowns in 2 seasons. 

The kid can play.  I'm sure if he ever moves on from the Panthers, he'll go back to catching passes from Burrow. 

Lazy labels? Have you actually watched him play, especially pre-season since he’s done very little in the regular season? As @Jon Snow eloquently said above, if TMJ can’t stand out in the Panthers WR room as a 2nd round pick in 3 years, he’s not good and sorry, he can’t play. It’s still amazing to me how much we overrate our players in here, especially when they haven’t lived up to their draft slot.

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