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Caleb Williams is struggling big time in OTAs

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2 hours ago, Jackie Lee said:

Fields knew he was done in Chicago, asked to be traded to the Steelers. The GM honored that and traded him to the Steelers, both spoke well of how the other handled the situation. Anything else is gossip

It was Tyler Dunne reporting that Fields came in his first few years and refused to listen to coaching from staff or players, Nick Foles and Andy apparently tried working with him but it was a lost cause in their eyes.

Dunne is very reliable. This was stuff that happened years ago so hopefully Fields matured.

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On 5/24/2024 at 12:32 PM, LinvilleGorge said:

No cause for alarm yet.

But a lot of folks called me a hater for questioning how well Williams would translate to the NFL. He holds the ball forever and has way too much of a tendency to try to turn every play into a scramble drill. He doesn't play well within structure. 

If he can evolve he has all the tools to be great. But if he doesn't evolve he's going to be a massive bust. The USC version of Caleb Williams is a bust. You have to draft him with the plan of rebuilding him. Drafting him and immediately announcing him as your savior and unquestioned day one starter isn't off to a good start. You're just feeding the ego that's already concerning and not letting this kid know that there's a LOT of work lying ahead.

I’m pretty much the opposite on him. He thrives on the scramble drill (like you said) and made a hell of a college career out of it but I don’t see too much that makes me think he has all the tools to be great. At least Bryce had all the mental tools (right or wrong that was the narrative out of college) for the NFL. Drake had the athleticism, Daniel’s the deep ball, Penix the cannon arm, Bo the accuracy…. I’m just not positive what tools Caleb has that is supposed to make him so great? All I saw from him was elite backyard make something happen ball… but I’ll admit I didn’t follow this qb class that closely. 

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Wasn't Baker Mayfield being clowned on lastoff-season?? And he ended up having a pretty good year and going to the playoffs with Tampa Bay. 

I know he's not a QB but I also remember people panicking when Jamar Chase was dropping a bunch of balls the off-season before his rookie year started. Then he did great when the actual games started.

Bryce had almost nothing but high praise all off season before his rookie year actually started. Then he proceeded to fall off a cliff and be the worst starting QB in the league.

People put way too much stock into off season practices. 

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"Chicago's "franchise" QB Caleb Williams has been benched during Chicago's OTA's after throwing 7 consecutive interceptions. Williams also did not compete a SINGLE pass in 7v7 drills. Coaches think Williams has been to reliant with his scrambling in scrimmages and have told him directly, "Stop playing like our last quarterback, play your game." 👀😳  

 

 

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8 hours ago, Panthercougar68 said:

It was Tyler Dunne reporting that Fields came in his first few years and refused to listen to coaching from staff or players, Nick Foles and Andy apparently tried working with him but it was a lost cause in their eyes.

Dunne is very reliable. This was stuff that happened years ago so hopefully Fields matured.

Yeah, that report kinda explained why the Bears may have decided to just move on from Fields. But I think they've probably drafted an even bigger diva.

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9 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Their history at QB is 

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In our brief, largely bad history we've had two QBs who are better than any kdy they've ever had 

 

The bears and the browns.  As many QBs they have drafted, they should be able able to field their own football league! 🤣🤣🤣

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