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Castavar Grand Master

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It's more about the process and mindset for me. Because every team is going to miss on players. But if the logic is there, I have no problem whiffing on a player. It's when we take players like Vernon Butler as a luxury when we had the best tandem in the league instead of going after someone like Michael Thomas when we had a dire need at WR. Or drafting the 2nd best CB over the consensus #1 rated CB (Horn over Surtain). Or drafting taking a 5'9 QB over an equally rated 6'3 QB. Or drafting a long snapper over Trey Smith when a guard was a big need for us.

So for me, it's not about who we draft, it's about whether the pick makes sense from a need or BPA standpoint, which more times that not leaves me saying "WTF" during the draft.

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14 minutes ago, Castavar said:

It's more about the process and mindset for me. Because every team is going to miss on players. But if the logic is there, I have no problem whiffing on a player. It's when we take players like Vernon Butler as a luxury when we had the best tandem in the league instead of going after someone like Michael Thomas when we had a dire need at WR. Or drafting the 2nd best CB over the consensus #1 rated CB (Horn over Surtain). Or drafting taking a 5'9 QB over an equally rated 6'3 QB. Or drafting a long snapper over Trey Smith when a guard was a big need for us.

So for me, it's not about who we draft, it's about whether the pick makes sense from a need or BPA standpoint, which more times that not leaves me saying "WTF" during the draft.

Or drafting projects vs solid ready to play guys when you lack enough tallent to field a competitive team or build the up projects...

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There is a distinction between different ready to play now players’ floors. If the org deems the floor too low meaning this is it, they could get buy but there probably won’t be a second contract, then I could see passing on ready to play now in the draft ; you can find that player in people’s cuts and general FA. 

I’m not arguing against any of the names we passed that became stars. Dumb passing on some of them.

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13 minutes ago, strato said:

There is a distinction between different ready to play now players’ floors. If the org deems the floor too low meaning this is it, they could get buy but there probably won’t be a second contract, then I could see passing on ready to play now in the draft ; you can find that player in people’s cuts and general FA. 

I’m not arguing against any of the names we passed that became stars. Dumb passing on some of them.

Ready to play are starters. Think Bradbury vs Whorley. They have just been too uber focused on projects IMO and their biggest 'ready to play' guy is now a giant project.

Projects can be great but this team has been chasing them heavily since Tepper showed up and I'm betting there is a corelation between that and the lack of overall talent on the roster.

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1 hour ago, FatChad said:

I feel disgusted.  We have the all-decade poo scouting department.  

We don't know that. We know the decision makers were terrible. The stories have regularly been the GM going against scouts.

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