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7 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

If Penix works out they're setup to run the division for the foreseeable future. The first team to land a quality young QB is going to have a massive competitive advantage in the NFC South.

Yeah the more I think about it, that pick may not have been the blunder it was made out to be.  It's such an important position.  If Cousins gets hurt their season isn't over.  They could trade Cousins in year 2/3 if Penix looks like the real deal.  Penix's age and injury history was the main concern for me vs them taking a QB that early.

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1 minute ago, ForJimmy said:

Yeah the more I think about it, that pick may not have been the blunder it was made out to be.  It's such an important position.  If Cousins gets hurt their season isn't over.  They could trade Cousins in year 2/3 in Penix looks like the real deal.  Penix's age and injury history was the main concern for me vs them taking a QB that early.

My initial reaction was WTF they're insane.  But after the dust settled, it might not be that bad of an idea.  Maybe they didn't pick the right guy, and maybe they should have told Kirk their plans.  But the fundamentals behind the idea are hard to argue with.

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21 minutes ago, ForJimmy said:

Yeah the more I think about it, that pick may not have been the blunder it was made out to be.  It's such an important position.  If Cousins gets hurt their season isn't over.  They could trade Cousins in year 2/3 if Penix looks like the real deal.  Penix's age and injury history was the main concern for me vs them taking a QB that early.

If you think there's a potential franchise QB available and you don't have a long-term franchise QB on the roster, you almost have to take him. Kirk Cousins is 35 and coming off a torn Achilles. That's no sure thing in the short-term and almost certainly isn't a long-term solution.

I have a lot of questions about Penix in the NFL. His arm isn't much better than Bryce's. But if it works out they're gonna look brilliant. If it doesn't, it's not like they mortgaged the franchise to get him.

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22 hours ago, Panthercougar68 said:

The Falcons lost to the 2-15 Carolina panthers. 

 

21 hours ago, t96 said:

Lol nah Kirk Cousins will never have a deep playoff run

 

20 hours ago, Ricky Prickles said:

Sorry im coming in late but how do the Falcons look this season? Is Roddy White and Algae Crumpler looking decent in camp so far? I cant stand Matt Ryan, I hope we shut his ass down!

 

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      No. Physical tools alone aren't enough. There are plenty of examples of draft busts to support that. Aost all of them had the physical tools and that wasn't enough. But Bryce is a perfect example of the opposite. Absolutely elite intangibles aren't enough either. If you simply don't have the physical abilities all the football intelligence and work ethic in the world won't be enough to overcome it. Just look to the sidelines every Sunday. We call those people "coaches".
    • SmokinwithWilly
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      As much as I despise Billy B, his philosophy on QBs is how I would approach things if I were a GM. You always keep looking for your next starter.  He has Bledsoe, who got injured and his backup ended up being the GOAT. Even while he had that going, he kept getting his next guy and developing them. When Brady got hurt, Cassel stepped in and went 11-5 and they missed the wild card by dumb luck. Who knows how far they would have gone if they had gotten in. Jimmy Gs career started in NE. There were others, but he always kept looking.  You can't be afraid to keep looking for your next starter, but it looks like we're afraid to look for more than a marginal one. If you're going to offer a $25m contract with incentives, that screams marginal QB. It also screams you're just a transition until we find our guy. After a 10 or 11 win season, he's not accepting that offer. And then you're in a Daniel Jones situation. Do you pay for a year of success and pray it wasn't a one year wonder?  To this point, Bryce has really produced nothing, yet for whatever reason, our FO has not even sniffed at the idea that we need a real QB room with real QBs. Dalton was never starter potential, Plummer was a joke. KP certainly isn't, neither is Grier.  Our approach to the QB room needs to be one of strength not fear. Bring in guys who can compete or who you think can compete. This is THE elite position, in an elite sport, paid premium salary, where production matters. Either you produce or you can lose your job. It's not mean, it's just the reality of the position.  And I'm really just tired of our candy ass approach to it. 
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      If you plug Bryce onto the Pro Bowl roster you might have a chance to compete for a SB. If he's surrounded by top tier talent with a top tier defense on the other side, a field flipping punter, and a kicker good from 60+ you might have a chance. But that means you basically have to recreate Saban's Bama in the NFL and that's impossible... and Bryce couldn't win a championship in that environment either. What the Panthers didn't realize when they got so obsessed with his "PG mentality" was that what they were looking st was a "barely checks the box PG". The basketball equivalent of Bryce would be an undersized PG with marginal athleticism who can make the basic plays but adds nothing to the team in terms of elevating the overall team. Not a great shooter, not a great defender, not a great driver. Just a guy who can basically get you into the offense and be a matador on defense. Basically a placeholder while you look to upgrade the PG position. 
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