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2024 College Football Thread


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15 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Army Navy, still the biggest rivalry in US sports.  The only rivalry in which a team could lose every game for the entire season except for that one and still consider it a successful season.  

The first 2 words Plebes learn are Go Navy, the second 2 are Beat Army! I'm sure Cadets are the opposite. Every time we play is huge - basketball, baseball, swim, field hockey, volleyball, track, everything. But this game, the football game, means everything!

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1 hour ago, HPPantherzfan said:

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Jeanty also outperformed the last couple Heisman RBs.  Hunter was not close to those who won it before him at those spots.   Hunter got it for being really good at 2 spots over someone great at one who also carried his team to the CFP and a conference title via that greatness

it’s like giving the NFL MVP to some unicorn watching the NFL playoffs from his couch. 

Fan vote clearly got it right.  Heisman voters leaned toward popularity in the end IMO

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3 hours ago, OldhamA said:

We won 10 games...

Sorry, I worded it poorly.  Before the GT game, I think Cam had a very good shot at the Heisman.  But the two losses to GT and Syracuse allowed others into the debate and Cam took a step back.  

 

Here is an article from late oct that list the heisman odds from Danny Sheridan at that time.  Shows Jeanty and Ward as the clear leaders.  

https://www.palmbeachpost.com/story/sports/college/football/2024/10/24/heisman-trophy-cam-ward-ashton-jeanty/75815568007/

Here are Sheridans odds later in the year.

https://www.nwfdailynews.com/story/sports/college/football/2024/12/13/travis-hunter-heisman-trophy-colorado-college-football/76957933007/

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At one point during the season, Cam Ward was the Heisman favorite. As Saturday approaches, his odds are 100-to-1 against winning the trophy. Ward won the Davey O'Brien award (college football's best quarterback) on Thursday night. He passed for 4,123 yards and 36 touchdowns, but his Heisman chances were damaged when the 'Canes did not advance to the ACC championship game and earn a berth in the playoffs.

 

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4 hours ago, CRA said:

Jeanty also outperformed the last couple Heisman RBs.  Hunter was not close to those who won it before him at those spots.   Hunter got it for being really good at 2 spots over someone great at one who also carried his team to the CFP and a conference title via that greatness

it’s like giving the NFL MVP to some unicorn watching the NFL playoffs from his couch. 

Fan vote clearly got it right.  Heisman voters leaned toward popularity in the end IMO

This is exactly why I navigate more towards the pro game.  While I love college football it really boils down to a bunch of people’s opinions for the most important decisions.  And human nature says we are all bias.  

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5 hours ago, CRA said:

Jeanty also outperformed the last couple Heisman RBs.  Hunter was not close to those who won it before him at those spots.   Hunter got it for being really good at 2 spots over someone great at one who also carried his team to the CFP and a conference title via that greatness

it’s like giving the NFL MVP to some unicorn watching the NFL playoffs from his couch. 

Fan vote clearly got it right.  Heisman voters leaned toward popularity in the end IMO

Hunter had no business winning this award, he was a great player on both sides of the ball, but he wasn't near the best at either position.  

In the end, what I go back to, is that Colorado had the Heisman winner on both sides of the ball and a Top 10 Heisman finisher at QB, and they couldn't even make the expanded playoffs.  If those two players were actually as good as things like this (and other awards) voting seemed to say, then they 100% should have been in the playoffs.

Hunter won this award because he was supposed to be so amazing on both sides of the ball.  How can you make that argument while ignoring that it wasn't enough to help them get into the playoffs?  If he was THAT good, he should have been able to drag his team there the way someone like Jeanty did.

If he was the best CB or WR and then really good at the other, then maybe, but he wasn't.  The fact that he won the best WR award is an absolute joke.  

I've always said stats don't matter when you're projecting a player for the NFL, but they do matter when voting on collegiate awards based on their play during the season.

He won a popularity contest, not a "who was the actual best player" contest.

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