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Official Panthers at Saints Game Day Thread

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jayboogieman Grand Master

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1 minute ago, tukafan21 said:

No

That's the same thing as when we fired Rhule and I said it was a mistake to do it at the time, because it only would improve the team.

We're not contending this year, just take our lumps and get a good draft pick.  No point in playing Dalton so we can be a 6-11 team and end up in no man's land in the draft where we won't get a truly elite prospect.

Bryce needs to be our starter for the full season and possibly even next year as well since this is a weak QB class.  Draft a non QB elite prospect, spend another year building up young talent, suck again next year with Bryce and then draft someone like Arch Manning with the 1st pick in 2026.

Yep. Roll with Young to the 1st pick unless he pulls a Collins and quits.

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Just now, tukafan21 said:

No

That's the same thing as when we fired Rhule and I said it was a mistake to do it at the time, because it only would improve the team.

We're not contending this year, just take our lumps and get a good draft pick.  No point in playing Dalton so we can be a 6-11 team and end up in no man's land in the draft where we won't get a truly elite prospect.

Bryce needs to be our starter for the full season and possibly even next year as well since this is a weak QB class.  Draft a non QB elite prospect, spend another year building up young talent, suck again next year with Bryce and then draft someone like Arch Manning with the 1st pick in 2026.

Yeah but another 2-15 season and good luck getting any FA to sign here. You’ll have nothing but rookies that are disappointed they were drafted by us. Besides, leaving Bryce in limits the offense and the development of people like Legette, Sanders, Mingo because the offense is limited. Change the QB and give the guys something to play for.

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Lol can't make this up. 3rd and 19 so let's draw a PI to let them move the chains. You know what, the D gets a pass as PeeWee can't keep the saints offense off the field. At some point if that little crook gets to keep screwing up and playing, they are all going to say fug it cause they won't do anything to PeeWee.

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