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You cannot start Bryce Young again. He is not an NFL player.

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1 hour ago, SOJA said:

yea AR would have been a solid pick too. I agree on the culture thing but I just can't see them actually giving up on Bryce after one year and one game. Not saying that Bryce gives us the best chance to win, I don't think he does 

Bryce was never ready to be a starter. He needed to sit and that's ok, but they threw him in day 1 and this is what we've got. 

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5 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

I know we’re just trying to find something to be excited for but kinda hard to judge XL when the saints weren’t really even playing defense yesterday. 

they were just kinda….nearby…the receivers while Bryce did Bryce things. 

sucks for XL because Bryce will not be able to get him the ball this year. It’ll be a wasted year of his development. Honestly he’s a reason to bench Bryce and start Dalton. 

The saints took pity on the panthers, you never see a NFL team do that. You could see players not putting out full effort, deal is it didnt allow panthers points even with the help.

Its been sooome moons since I recall a NFL feeling sorry for their opponent. 

Still nice to nice XL look like a NFL WR and I was already thinking he was on the three year til the light comes on.  Of course he now has to learn maybe the hardest lesson, you got to be constantly good each week. 

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On 9/9/2024 at 7:48 PM, SmokinwithWilly said:

Bryce was never ready to be a starter. He needed to sit and that's ok, but they threw him in day 1 and this is what we've got. 

The only reason he was even draftable was because he was supposed to be some football brainiac. He was running protection meetings by the 2nd week of camp last year lol. No one leading up to the draft labeled him as a "project" or anything like that. 

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34 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

we had options.  how can they be so wrong?  Sounds like they have yes men around tepper.  you need a round table where nobody outranks anyone else during the discussions

Hire people to run the show and make major decisions on your behalf. Fully step aside beyond franchise altering decisions. But even then let the people you've hired make the call. Give them some time and rope and if they poo the bed you start over. He can't do that. He is arrogant petty and ego driven. Think back to him holding a press conference after firing Reich where he purposely mispronounced his name. First of all. You shouldn't be the one doing this you should have someone in place like I just mentioned. Second of all. Extremely childish and small minded behavior. That's a big part of the reason why ultimately Dan Morgan was just about the only one willing to take the GM job here. Ditto on Canales.

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7 minutes ago, frankw said:

Hire people to run the show and make major decisions on your behalf. Fully step aside beyond franchise altering decisions. But even then let the people you've hired make the call. Give them some time and rope and if they poo the bed you start over. He can't do that. He is arrogant petty and ego driven. Think back to him holding a press conference after firing Reich where he purposely mispronounced his name. First of all. You shouldn't be the one doing this you should have someone in place like I just mentioned. Second of all. Extremely childish and small minded behavior. That's a big part of the reason why ultimately Dan Morgan was just about the only one willing to take the GM job here. Ditto on Canales.

I could see this happening at some point (hopefully soon). He's not a stupid guy. Eventually he HAS to come to grips that he shouldn't be involved in the important decision making when it comes to football stuff. Sure hope that time comes sooner than later though....if it ever does. 

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