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7 hours ago, musicman said:

Bryce plays better every game and finishes with decent stats and a few wins? Doesn't have to set records, just keep improving. 

DJ Wonnum is back to being healthy at DE and helps generates pressure and a few sacks with Clowney?

Adam comes back as the slot receiver and between him Coker and X, they start getting around 300+ yards as a group per game?

What if JT Sanders is the real deal and is developing into a top 10 TE?

What if MLB Wallace is a more than solid player in the mold of a Dan Morgan?

What happens if Brooks is a great 1-2 punch with Chuba and they average well over 100 yards per game?

What happens in Horns stays healthy and we have a true shut down corner?

What is the O-line continues it's dominance?

4 wins or 6 wins, maybe even 7, doesn't matter. The team shows improvement and plays like a team and it was injuries and a new mentality needed by the team and HC to turn this around. Would you be supportive? Still negative (same old Panthers)? 

Looks like to me we had a turn around year to be positive about and few more add ons (draft & FA) and this team could at least compete for the playoffs in 2026. Health is #1 and having a system in place for a 2nd year would be huge. No matter how the year finishes, those points are what I'm rooting for. 

 

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21 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Bryce playing just good enough to give the team enough hope to roll with him again next year is the worst possible scenario.

My biggest fear, especially if we don't bring in another qb as well to atleast push him. These fans really want to ride whole new year on his shoulders. Absolute delusion. 

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17 hours ago, Icege said:

A lot of fans would be relieved, but there are a few (especially here on the Huddle) that would probably set their scooters on fire if the team has any success with Bryce as the QB.

I mean it all depends how you define success...winning a game against a 2 or 3 win team? Bryce only throwing around 150 yds with one TD on average and less interceptions? Is that successful? It sounds baby steps. We are still far away from the point where we are actually capable of beating good teams or expecting Bryce to play well against a team thats actually good. I mean Fans were actually upset he had to go against a team with a good defense 2 weeks ago. It's still nothing to be that enthusiastic about.

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If Bryce plays good we either give him another year and keep building OR get a decent pick for him the better he plays. Would you take Sam Darnold back? Or someone like him? I think taking a QB with a high draft pick is a possibly another 2 year set back if it doesn't work out. Next year they can be competitive and really be rolling by 2026 with the right moves. 

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