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Young vs WIlliams over the past three games


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1 hour ago, cranky said:

Y'all are crazy. How's that saying go: insanity is doing the same thing over and expecting different results.

Every year, the Panthers get a new QB and when they dont immediatley live up to expectations, everybody wants to get rid of them and start over. Bridgwater, then Darnold, then Newton, then Mayfield then Young and now everyone wants to discard him and start over again just so they can get a Justin Fields or a Trubisky or a Rosen or a Jones or a Mac Jones etc, etc, etc. 

I wasn't a fan of the pick but I'm tired of the revolving door and I've seen enough over the past three games to make me believe there may actually be something there. 

Darnold, Mayfield, Geno Smith were all promising QB's put in terrible positions who floundered and consequently disgarded but through some miracle, are all playing at a high level now. Sometimes development takes time. 

 

Development requires having the physical talent prerequisites 

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17 hours ago, frankw said:

Both Bryce Young and Caleb Williams finished their most recent game with what would be the lowest yards per pass attempt in the NFL.

I'm fuging thrilled he and the Bears are a dumpster fire right now.

But unfortunately on the bust scale Caleb is 1A to Bryce at 1B currently.

So what. The Panthers got the win both times. Bryce did exactly what was needed to win - complete the pass when it was there and protect the football - nothing more. I could care less what his yards per pass attempt is so long as they get the win. 

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49 minutes ago, cranky said:

So what. The Panthers got the win both times. Bryce did exactly what was needed to win - complete the pass when it was there and protect the football - nothing more. I could care less what his yards per pass attempt is so long as they get the win. 

That's cool that's your POV. But that's a jag. Not a first overall pick. That means you keep looking. This is a results league.

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