Thomas Brown an OC Again

[kungfoodude]

13 hours ago, Basbear said:

I think Bagnet could play better at this point. 

No. He cannot. Even a little.

[Swaggasaurus]

16 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

The Texans would likely disagree too. 

It's a case-by-case thing, and in the case of Williams, well...

I’m not sold on Stroud. He’s had some Bryce esque games this year. A Bryce Young led Panthers team beat this man last year. I know he led them to the playoffs and had a good Rookie season, but Sam Bradford and Vince Young were once ROY as well. Jury still out for me.

[strato]

8 hours ago, Call Me James said:

Yea, yall said the same thing about Joe Brady. 

You are comparing Joe Brady to Thomas Brown? 

I don't know what Brown has done to warrant any kind of favorable comparison. Unless I am mistake, he was OC and RB coach at Miami but did not call the plays. And that is it pretty much it for his OC experience.

Every other coaching job I can find for him in college is RB coach. Multiple times and teams. 

 I think he gummed things up here to be honest, he had no QB coaching experience, no play calling experience, no passing game credentials.... he is going to have to put it in the record before I would give him any credibility in OC/passing land in the NFL. Between him and Bryce, you know that was a smooth ride for Reich. And the offense in general. 

I never understood the hire, here. I don't understand the hire in Chicago. As OC for a rookie QB?

I would be curious to find his wife's social so we can keep up with how it is all going. She'll tell us and that's always entertaining. 

Edited November 13, 2024 by strato

[BIGH2001]

17 minutes ago, strato said:

You are comparing Joe Brady to Thomas Brown? 

I don't know what Brown has done to warrant any kind of favorable comparison. Unless I am mistake, he was OC and RB coach at Miami but did not call the plays. And that is it pretty much it for his OC experience.

Every other coaching job I can find for him in college is RB coach. Multiple times and teams. 

 I think he gummed things up here to be honest, he had no QB coaching experience, no play calling experience, no passing game credentials.... he is going to have to put it in the record before I would give him any credibility in OC/passing land in the NFL. Between him and Bryce, you know that was a smooth ride for Reich. And the offense in general. 

I never understood the hire, here. I don't understand the hire in Chicago. As OC for a rookie QB?

I would be curious to find his wife's social so we can keep up with how it is all going. She'll tell us and that's always entertaining. 

Yeah there’s no comparison for me. Brown isn’t an NFL rookie like Brady was. And Brady was working for a control freak, narcissistic coach and a narcissistic owner who thought he knew everything. Brown has had multiple stops and was so bad that Reich took over his job as OC not once but twice last season. Eberflus is going to be fired and someone has to call the plays. It doesn’t mean Brown is any good at being an OC. And his wife bitching on instagram is the icing on the cake. 

Edited November 13, 2024 by BIGH2001

[strato]

44 minutes ago, BIGH2001 said:

Yeah there’s no comparison for me. Brown isn’t an NFL rookie like Brady was. And Brady was working for a control freak, narcissistic coach and a narcissistic owner who thought he knew everything. Brown has had multiple stops and was so bad that Reich took over his job as OC not once but twice last season. Eberflus is going to be fired and someone has to call the plays. It doesn’t mean Brown is any good at being an OC. And his wife bitching on instagram is the icing on the cake. 

Brady had high level success in college actually named assistant of the year, Brady is OC'ing in Buffalo and doing well. 

Brown still really is trying to get experience with the passing side and play calling etc.

I am not dogging Brown personally, nor as a football coach within his areas of expertise; just skeptical of his experience matching with his duties. Like I was here. Same thing. 

[outlaw4]

5 hours ago, Swaggasaurus said:

I’m not sold on Stroud. He’s had some Bryce esque games this year. A Bryce Young led Panthers team beat this man last year. I know he led them to the playoffs and had a good Rookie season, but Sam Bradford and Vince Young were once ROY as well. Jury still out for me.

Texans are having their own issues protecting their QB this year. In fact, Stroud is right behind Caleb as the most sacked QB so far this year. No surprise, fans want Texans OC Slowik out just like the Bears canned Waldron. 

[fanpanther]

Brown had young to work with hard to judge any coach who has him as qb. 

[Basbear]

7 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

No. He cannot. Even a little.

 

[Mr. Scot]

On 11/12/2024 at 7:09 PM, Davidson Deac II said:

Imo, the ability to get the ball out quickly and accurately under pressure is still the most important skill a qb can have. Of course, when you can do that and still run around and make freaky looking throws, you get Patrick Mahomes.  

Passing accuracy is my #1.

Fast processing / decision making would be my 1A.

[Mr. Scot]

On 11/12/2024 at 7:49 PM, kungfoodude said:

Waldron is fuging awful and the Bears have no legit QB options outside Williams.

He was getting head coaching looks when he was with the Seahawks.

[kungfoodude]

4 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

He was getting head coaching looks when he was with the Seahawks.

I mean, so was Nathaniel Hackett.

[Davidson Deac II]

5 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Passing accuracy is my #1.

Fast processing / decision making would be my 1A.

That is why I said fast and accurate.  The two are related imo.  If you are accurate but slow, you get hit a lot.  If you are fast but inaccurate, you get a lot of misses and int's.  

Edited November 14, 2024 by Davidson Deac II

[strato]

On 11/13/2024 at 4:26 PM, outlaw4 said:

Texans are having their own issues protecting their QB this year. In fact, Stroud is right behind Caleb as the most sacked QB so far this year. No surprise, fans want Texans OC Slowik out just like the Bears canned Waldron. 

That's some fickle poo.

Last year he was the man. This year, a lot of injuries it sounds like, some struggles, he sucks. 

[NAS]

Thomas Brown and Caleb Williams just put up this passing chart

Caleb Williams did not complete a single pass beyond 6 yards downfield until the final drive of regulation in the Bears’ TNF loss to the Seahawks.

Under 10 AY: 15/17, 107 yards (+4.5% CPOE)
Over 10 AY: 1/9, 15 yards, INT (-27.2% CPOE)