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Thomas Brown an OC Again

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Davidson Deac II Grand Master

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28 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The Texans would likely disagree too. 

It's a case-by-case thing, and in the case of Williams, well... 😕

There are a handful (a very small handful) of NFL qb's in history that were able to handle it.  Cam Newton, mainly because of his size and strength.  Jayden seems to be doing ok but that is because he had an almost idea setup and he played a lot more games in college than the majority of these guys do. But If he were in Chicago, not sure he would be doing any better than Williams.      

Most of the NFL greats (Brady, Montana, Mahomes, Bradshaw, Staubach etc...) sat for a while.  There is this myth that today's qb's are able to play right away because of what they did in college.  It ain't true.  

 

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2 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

There are a handful (a very small handful) of NFL qb's in history that were able to handle it.  Cam Newton, mainly because of his size and strength.  Jayden seems to be doing ok but that is because he had an almost idea setup. If he were in Chicago, not sure he would be doing any better.    

Most of the NFL greats (Brady, Montana, Mahomes, Bradshaw, Staubach etc...) sat for a while.  There is this myth that today's qb's are able to play right away because of what they did in college.  It ain't true.  

Honestly I'd argue that what most of them are doing in college right now is an argument against them starting right away rather than for it.

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5 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

You might be right, but some make the argument that qb's in college throw the ball more than they did 20-30 years ago.  

Generally in simplified, gimmicky systems with limited route trees and minimal read responsibility...

Young most certainly has physical limitations, but enough super athlete quarterbacks have failed over the last few years to throw significant water on the idea that you can "just coach them up" as long as they have all the athletic tools.

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2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Generally in simplified, gimmicky systems with limited route trees and minimal read responsibility...

Young most certainly has physical limitations, but enough super athlete quarterbacks have failed over the last few years to throw significant water on the idea that you can "just coach them up" as long as they have all the athletic tools.

Imo, the ability to get the ball out quickly and accurately under pressure is still the most important skill a qb can have. Of course, when you can do that and still run around and make freaky looking throws, you get Patrick Mahomes.  

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26 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Imo, the ability to get the ball out quickly and accurately under pressure is still the most important skill a qb can have. Of course, when you can do that and still run around and make freaky looking throws, you get Patrick Mahomes.  

This. If they can handle pressure without leaving the pocket in college and make tight window throws that's who you should be looking at.

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3 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Rumor is that some Bears players thought Williams should be benched as opposed to Waldron being fired.

True? Don't know. Plausible? Yeah.

Either way, given their prior connections It's not exactly hard to imagine Waldron becoming a part of Dave Canales' Panthers staff in some role.

(heck, I'd be for it)

Waldron is fuging awful and the Bears have no legit QB options outside Williams.

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1 hour ago, CmC2k said:

Why take the job if your Thomas Brown? Why tie your future career aspirations at being an OC or a HC to a mentally unprepared rookie again? 

what's he supposed to say? no? and get fired at the end of the season anyways? he gets an opportunity to prove his ability again with a #1 pick QB and a slew of weapons. 

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