Build up the Dline, just like the Oline

[pdub0702]

4 hours ago, Jmac said:

The offensive line has become the strongest unit on the team. They have made the running game click and kept Bryce vertical.

The next step is building a dominant Dline. Use the draft and FA to add the pieces needed. That would make the biggest difference. A QB would be nice (Bryce has looked better, but still not close to being a game changer.)

Defiantly need to get the defense up to snuff. If Bryce keeps improving, he may get another season. They can't go another season with the defense being a weak link.

This. Lucky for enough.. there appears to be good options this draft class

[pdub0702]

4 hours ago, thennek said:

Getting back Derrick Brown will be a big help……Brown plus Robinson is not a bad combination. Just need some Edge’s next. Would be great of Wonnum could be part of the solution. I actually think the secondary is in pretty good shape. 

Robinson has been solid. Would have loved to see Brown and him more this season. If Wonnum can be decent, then we should grab a couple Edges (1st, 2nd rounds) or grab one and try to grab a linebacker.

Very, very early..but Abdul Carter, Landon Jackson, Lander Barton and Deone Walker seems like intersting options. 
 

As far as QBs..Rourke out of Indiana could be an interesting option. 

[TD alt]

BPA! If that happens to be D-line, sobeit. FA has to figure in somewhere as well.

[HPPantherzfan]

4 hours ago, pdub0702 said:

Robinson has been solid. Would have loved to see Brown and him more this season. If Wonnum can be decent, then we should grab a couple Edges (1st, 2nd rounds) or grab one and try to grab a linebacker.

Very, very early..but Abdul Carter, Landon Jackson, Lander Barton and Deone Walker seems like intersting options. 
 

As far as QBs..Rourke out of Indiana could be an interesting option. 

I like Landon a lot, I believe he is going to be a beast at the next level and can, more than likely, get him in later rounds. 

[Khyber53]

9 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

That's cool but just know we aren't winning anything until we solve the elephant in the room.

 

Franchise QB

 

See, there's this whole thing about get your "Franchise" QB and you're golden. Except, well, it's crap.

Look at the Jets, year after year, trying to draft that dude, never hitting. Then they go out and wrangle Aaron Rogers. And they're still crap.

Why? 

Because they haven't built a team. Their o-line is suspect, their defense is leaky. 

A QB isn't the answer, until you've got the rest of your units up to at least middle of the pack quality. 

Think about how long it took us to get right after drafting Cam. Phenomenal talent, impactful player, still took four years of team building before he took off.

And on the other side, if you build a strong pair of O and D lines, then work hard at developing your skill players, someone like Jared Goff or Sam Darnold can come in and have success. Brock Purdy can get you to the Super Bowl.

Trying to find your "franchise" QB at the top of the draft isn't a luxury pick, it's most often a wasteful pick. Get you the best d-lineman, tackle or linebacker in the draft.

[Urrymonster2]

I think the fact we’ve had multiple injuries of varying length and see a consistency of performance shows this isn’t just the personnel.

Scheme, positional coaching and the players have to be in sync to perform like this. 

So making the big FA splash will only work if the scheme and coaching can take advantage and develop them into a cohesive unit. I’m unsure if we have that unity on the defensive side where Canales had the luxury of bringing over someone who was already coaching in his scheme and then picked the guys that most likely thrive.

[CamWhoaaCam]

2 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

See, there's this whole thing about get your "Franchise" QB and you're golden. Except, well, it's crap.

Look at the Jets, year after year, trying to draft that dude, never hitting. Then they go out and wrangle Aaron Rogers. And they're still crap.

Why? 

Because they haven't built a team. Their o-line is suspect, their defense is leaky. 

A QB isn't the answer, until you've got the rest of your units up to at least middle of the pack quality. 

Think about how long it took us to get right after drafting Cam. Phenomenal talent, impactful player, still took four years of team building before he took off.

And on the other side, if you build a strong pair of O and D lines, then work hard at developing your skill players, someone like Jared Goff or Sam Darnold can come in and have success. Brock Purdy can get you to the Super Bowl.

Trying to find your "franchise" QB at the top of the draft isn't a luxury pick, it's most often a wasteful pick. Get you the best d-lineman, tackle or linebacker in the draft.

You realize the Commanders and Texans both had trash rosters. That's how they ended up with the #2 pick.

 

How all of sudden they go from bottom feeders to a playoff team the following season?

 

I think you don't realize the true impact of a franchise QB. It's crazy people still trying to debate the value of the QB position.

 

Y'all living in the 90's football isn't played that way anymore. The Baltimore Ravens dominate defense won in a different era. This is a QB era. You can't hit them like you could in the past. The rules have changed in favor of the QB.

 

Look at the elite teams in the league they all have elite QBs. Without the QB your franchise is going nowhere.

 

7 years under Tepper and fans still haven't realized this. Well keep ignoring the QB position and we will keep sucking. It's really that simple.

[SOJA]

here you go 

[kungfoodude]

9 hours ago, pdub0702 said:

This. Lucky for enough.. there appears to be good options this draft class

Would love to get Deone Walker from UK. I think he is gonna be a stud.

[Daddy_Uncle]

I hope we prioritize defense as well. Get the best pass rusher with our first pick and beef up the front 7

[rayzor]

14 hours ago, CamWhoaaCam said:

That's cool but just know we aren't winning anything until we solve the elephant in the room.

 

Franchise QB

 

that's another discussion for one of a few hundred threads.

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, rayzor said:

that's another discussion for one of a few hundred threads.

This dude is off his rocker. Every thread has to devolve into simping for Sanders/Ward. It's completely ridiculous.

[kungfoodude]

40 minutes ago, Daddy_Uncle said:

I hope we prioritize defense as well. Get the best pass rusher with our first pick and beef up the front 7

I suspect we will be in the 5-10 range, so we should be able to get one of the top defenders available. Not sure it will be a pass rusher. Honestly, this class is pretty light on high end pass rushers.

[rayzor]

i do agree that the focus needs to be on the front 7.

the front that we've got now would look MUCH better with Derrick Brown there. A'Shawn and Shy are good, but the three of them together would have big time changed what we have been able to do up front. I want to see them together next year.

I like Clowney and i'm thrilled we got Wonnum in there finally. I'm hoping that Wonnum and he are able to secure things on the edge going forward. Hopefully we can keep those two and add to edge through the draft. Those two together with the trio of Brown/Tuttle/Robinson was how it was supposed to be. We need to add depth to all of that, though. 

And then at linebacker, i think that tevin wallace is the future in the middle of the LB corps. i really like josey jewell as well. we do need to be strengthening the LB corps, though...especially if we switch back to 4-3 (which i really don't see happening for a while).

We need depth and we need the guys to stay healthy. i think we actually have a good start. it's just having the guys be healthy. If we add a couple FA parts and then go heavy in the draft towards the front 7, i think we'll be seeing a lot of improvement.