Luvu & Chinn

[Navy_football]

12 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Because after nearly winning DROY, and he should have realistically, the coaching staff decided to move him out of the position he was dominating. Opposing offenses couldn't neutralize him, so our coaching staff did it for them. 

The closer he is to the LOS, the better he becomes. To me, he's a Robber or WLB. Lining him up at FS is beyond dumb. 

[Davidson Deac II]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

Fair but we also can tailor our entire scheme around a player that really is not an elite player at an elite position.

I love Chinn but he didn't fit what we were doing and our plans for him didn't work out. It just is what it is.

I agree, you take the entire group and tailor the style to that groups talents.  But if we couldn't figure out a way to use him, probably should have traded much earlier.  

[Davidson Deac II]

34 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Because after nearly winning DROY, and he should have realistically, the coaching staff decided to move him out of the position he was dominating. Opposing offenses couldn't neutralize him, so our coaching staff did it for them. 

The constant changing of coaching staffs probably didn't help much.  

[NAS]

1 hour ago, Navy_football said:

The closer he is to the LOS, the better he becomes. To me, he's a Robber or WLB. Lining him up at FS is beyond dumb. 

He was too small to be a linebacker though, did he even try to bulk up? 

[SetfreexX]

16 hours ago, outlaw4 said:

We seemingly couldn't figure out how to use Chinn here. 

We tried keeping Luvu but he chose Washington over us.

 

Not we, Evero. 

Chinn showed all the promise in the world as a ''box'' defender, but since Evero tends to play a lot of 2 deep shells, Cov 2, 4, 6, and 9 (this is aside from personnel is why we struggle with the run at times because the safeties are typically both back) it limits Chinn's ability as a utility piece, and playing him as a F/T nickel was not something he could do fool time. 

Chinn is a chess piece you move around each game to attack an offense, blitz, run defense, coverage, not sit off the ball 20 yards. 

Dude is 6'3 220, he needed to be deployed near the LOS. 

[BrianS]

16 hours ago, Dave Gettleman's Shorts said:

instead they tried to reinvent the wheel and play him like he was Earl Thomas

they should have went the Thomas Davis route and bulked Chinn 10-15 pounds and convert him full time into a OLB, but obviously Chinn wouldn't work in Evero's 3-4

A slightly heavier Chinn would have been a GREAT Will LB in a 4-3.  Free to chase the ball?  He'd be a monster in the run game, and good enough to cover most RB's out of the backfield.  I'm glad he's finding success now in Washington, he's a good dude.

[Navy_football]

49 minutes ago, NAS said:

He was too small to be a linebacker though, did he even try to bulk up? 

I don't think he was too small. He was about 220 and they played him there alot his rookie year when he was 2nd place DROY. Maybe another 10 pounds would have helped, but not absolutely necessary. 

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, Navy_football said:

I don't think he was too small. He was about 220 and they played him there alot his rookie year when he was 2nd place DROY. Maybe another 10 pounds would have helped, but not absolutely necessary. 

TD was a tweener that got pretty bulky. Chinn probably could be the same. 

It will be interesting to watch his career.

[Dave Gettleman's Shorts]

7 hours ago, BrianS said:

A slightly heavier Chinn would have been a GREAT Will LB in a 4-3.  Free to chase the ball?  He'd be a monster in the run game, and good enough to cover most RB's out of the backfield.  I'm glad he's finding success now in Washington, he's a good dude.

if Marty hurney and a 4-3 defensive coordinator was here, Chinn would still be here 

[strato]

6 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

TD was a tweener that got pretty bulky. Chinn probably could be the same. 

It will be interesting to watch his career.

This probably would have worked out if we had employed a defensive HC. 

[Davidson Deac II]

10 hours ago, strato said:

This probably would have worked out if we had employed a defensive HC. 

Rhule was a defensive head coach.  He got very defensive whenever criticized. 

[CPantherKing]

Would you want to play for Evero or would you take less money to play for a DC with success? Evero never puts his players in a position to win. He makes them all backstops.

[Davidson Deac II]

On 11/15/2024 at 2:08 PM, SetfreexX said:

Not we, Evero. 

Snow couldn't figure out how to use him either.  

[shaqattaq]

On 11/14/2024 at 10:04 PM, LinvilleGorge said:

I really don't understand the love affair some here have with Evero. He's a JAG DC.

He hasn't thrived, but you have to admit he's been handed the poo-end of the stick when it comes to personnel. Especially this season.