Are we the worse at picking second round picks or cursed?

[rayzor]

Neither. You're just being dramatic.

[bythenbrs]

Embrace the healing power of ‘and’…

[micnificent28]

19 minutes ago, rayzor said:

Neither. You're just being dramatic.

Am I? History tells a different story.. 

[L-TownCat]

Kris Jenkins and Ryan Kalil are the best ones.

[PNW_PantherMan]

17 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

I blame Sir Purr. He's cursed. Should change the name to the Carolina Reapers.

Why is it the bear's fault?

[Jon Snow]

2 minutes ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Why is it the bear's fault?

[MHS831]

16 minutes ago, L-TownCat said:

Kris Jenkins and Ryan Kalil are the best ones.

Wasn't Mushin Muhammad a second rounder? 

[Jon Snow]

3 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Wasn't Mushin Muhammad a second rounder? 

My memory must be failing me but I thought Moose was picked in the 1st. That was one of the reasons Steve Smith resented him so much at first.

[Tbe]

8 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

Wasn't Mushin Muhammad a second rounder? 

He was.

[WhoKnows]

18 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

Ryan Khalil would agree. He's the last 2nd round pick I can remember worth a damn.

Yep. If one day we decide to draft the strong/deep positions more and play the value side we could be ok. C/G is great for day 2. Same with LB and TE. Lower value positions that go after T, QB, CB, WR, etc. you are drafting the best C/G early to mid second like we always draft. Get the 2nd or 3rd best C (Frazier or Humphrey) instead of the 12th WR or 1st RB in a weak ass class.

It’s so simple and it’s why the good teams stay good for a while.

[GPantherfan]

Bruce Nelson never played a down 

[MHS831]

1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

My memory must be failing me but I thought Moose was picked in the 1st. That was one of the reasons Steve Smith resented him so much at first.

I have said this before, but I watched Steve Smith bully the hell out of Dwayne Jarrrett at OTAs---and the coaches let him do it.  Steve is a narcissistic munchkin--there were not any WRs who were drafted here who prospered after Smith was drafted-I recall him embarrassing Jimmy Clausen in public, punching 2 teammates, and I watched him bully at least 1 WR.  He was not a good teammate-he sucked as a person, in my limited view.  However, at 5'8" and 200 lbs, maybe that was necessary for him to be great.

[Jon Snow]

4 minutes ago, MHS831 said:

I have said this before, but I watched Steve Smith bully the hell out of Dwayne Jarrrett at OTAs---and the coaches let him do it.  Steve is a narcissistic munchkin--there were not any WRs who were drafted here who prospered after Smith was drafted-I recall him embarrassing Jimmy Clausen in public, punching 2 teammates, and I watched him bully at least 1 WR.  He was not a good teammate-he sucked as a person, in my limited view.  However, at 5'8" and 200 lbs, maybe that was necessary for him to be great.

Whatever other issues SS had with teammates failed in comparison to Steve's infuriating complex. He had to be the best and baddest in the field and he wasn't going to be anyone's friend.

Edited December 10, 2024 by Jon Snow

[MHS831]

I have a theory.  For most of our time here, Marty was the GM.  He was solid in the first round.  He then, in the second round, would say, "We had a first round grade on him."  Everette Brown was one--Clausen was another....I ask, "If they had a first round grade, why did he fall?"  He said that about Clausen--KC and Minnesota did not have a QB during that draft and they passed on Clausen in the first round--and in the second.  That should have been a red flag--what did they know that Hurney did not know?  That was also the Armanti Edwards draft.  So in round 2, if a player drops, find out why other teams are passing.  It could be that they have other needs, but KC and Minn needed QBs and skipped on Clausen.  This is AFTER MH spent the evening between rounds 1 and 2 trying to give the Rams the team's first rounder (the following year) and the second rounder that year to move up to take Clausen at 33.  That is how you get into trouble--read the room.