Would you trade Ickey

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On 12/16/2024 at 6:35 AM, Gapanthersfan said:

Bryce sucked flat out today. Bad decisions on throws. He owns a large stake in this loss…. BUT… a common theme, Bryce’s worst games come when a blue chip speed rusher lines up opposite to Ickey. 

Serious question. would this team benefit from trading Ickey? Do they give him one more year? If his ability to handle a speed rusher would have come around, it would have been seen by now. 

This team will get abused in the playoffs if they have to constantly scheme around his shortcomings. 

Trade and Get a 2nd or 3rd for Ickey before they make a mistake and back themselves in to having to shell out big $$ to a one trick pony with questionable dog in him. If a franchise LT is there in the draft. Pick him. Cut bait. 

I'd trade him for 2 dozen Krispy Kreme doughnuts and a 2nd round pick right now. He is easily replaced. 

[OldhamA]

Some team will make Ekwonu into a Pro Bowl OG. We were just foolish enough to draft him high and force him to play LT. 

[Gapanthersfan]

1 hour ago, OldhamA said:

Some team will make Ekwonu into a Pro Bowl OG. We were just foolish enough to draft him high and force him to play LT. 

1000% 

Classical panthers move. Draft a guy in the early first round who has a significant flaw that they feel they can coach up. They are never able to and then find themselves at the crossroads of overpay or let em walk for nothing. 

[Mr. Scot]

Trade him? Probably not.

That said, still don't think counting on him as a franchise left tackle is a good idea.

[Gapanthersfan]

What does the team do if/when he says he wants $84m x 5 years? 

[Pejorative Miscreant]

So many other consistent issues to worry about.  I’m an NC State grad and would love to say Ickey is great but even as an NC State grad (some of u Carolina guys are thinking  it) I have the smarts to  realize he is not the great LT we want him to be.  
 

But he’s not the worst and has played ant a level this season where we don’t mention his name too often. I can’t see the FO spending man hours scheming a strategy to trade Ickey. If something stupid crazy falls out of the sky then fine but no way is this team in a position to shop a young average to sometimes above average starting LT. 

Just my.02

[Aussie Tank]

8 hours ago, OldhamA said:

Some team will make Ekwonu into a Pro Bowl OG. We were just foolish enough to draft him high and force him to play LT. 

Look at Beckton on the Eagles now 

[SmokinwithWilly]

7 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

Look at Beckton on the Eagles now 

Also the first time he's been relatively healthy since entering the league. 

[Aussie Tank]

2 minutes ago, SmokinwithWilly said:

Also the first time he's been relatively healthy since entering the league. 

Weird how that happens when they change teams 

[SmokinwithWilly]

13 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

Weird how that happens when they change teams 

Probably has something to do with playing guard now too. He's a very big guy and handling edge rushers with speed was probably hard on his lower body.

[bandu]

like I have said before I would much rather us start Brady Christensen at LT.  BC was a really good LT while in college at BYU & also has played  LT numerous times since joining the Panthers & each time done a decent job 

however Ickey does in fact have a higher ceiling than Brady Christensen but the only problem with that is that Ickey is in fact not developing into the LT the Panthers envisioned he would become when they first drafted him several years ago 

so yeah the answer might not be the long term answer at LT but I also at the same time think that there is for sure a better option at LT already on the roster 

...just saying

Edited December 18, 2024 by bandu

[parker]

Is there a place to bet on how fast after he was traded, that he plays a solid game for someone and the board is flooded with how we trade away all our good players?  If so, then yes.  Trade him.

 

[Gapanthersfan]

4 hours ago, parker said:

Is there a place to bet on how fast after he was traded, that he plays a solid game for someone and the board is flooded with how we trade away all our good players?  If so, then yes.  Trade him.

 

Oh he would absolutely flourish. It’s the panthers way. It’s no different with coaches. Sometimes they reach their expiration date, go somewhere else, and find new success. 

Similarly to Burns, how long to wait for the light to finally turn on? 

Market forces will demand a salary that the panthers can not responsibly match. Sliding him to guard will fit his skill set better, but he has played LT for 3 years. He will receive offers from other teams wanting to pay him LT money. 

At guard, he won’t start with what they have paid Hunt and Lewis. Center then?? Dunno. Maybe? He will become a backup by default once they draft their stud LT. I doubt Dan just stands pat. That’s not his MO. 

So where does this put him? Can you match what other teams will offer for a backup LT/guard? Do you dish out franchise LT $ on a guy who still needs significant improvement in pass protection. This team will be DOA in the playoffs with the very first team who has a formidable speed rusher. What if he has hit his ceiling in pass protection already and they sign him long term? It’s a big gamble either way. 

[panthers55]

Given he is on his rookie contract and this year he has a new line coach, let's see how he progresses. At the cost of left tackles these days, he is worth more to keep him versus trading him away.