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9 minutes ago, Shocker said:

He will cost a mint and all kindza picks.  No thanks

 

 

https://oldnorthbanter.com/projected-panthers-myles-garrett-trade-package-lands-star-in-carolina-01jk6becydb6

 

That said, if that’s the starting price for Garrett, the Panthers would have to give up their 2025 first-round pick (8th overall), a 2026 first-round pick, a 2025 third-round pick, and potentially a Day 2 pick in 2026.

For a team like Carolina that might be too much to give up for a win-now player even though he would take this unit to new heights. Instead, the Panthers might be better off using those picks to fill various holes in the draft or to acquire under-the-radar players.

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There is no world where I'd ever be okay with giving up future 1st round picks, for any player, until we know if Bryce can be the future or not (and for all you Bryce backers, you can't honestly say he's already proven that he can be).

I also don't believe for a second that Garrett who is asking for a trade not because of money, but because he wants to win, would be okay with coming here where we're not 1 player away from winning.  All while at the same time, trading for him and extending would take us out at the knees to build the rest of the roster out that we'd need to actually contend anyways.

AND.... even if I were okay with it, I'd much rather go after Parsons than Garrett, younger and might actually be the better player as well.

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47 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

You got duped and started a thread about it.  So no.....

There will be many more of these threads to come. You know how it is this time of year. The Panthers will be linked to every possible FA and trade scenarios you can imagine this offseason and fans will eat that stuff up. It's the same every offseason that's why it's so funny. You can set your clock by it.

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Cant trade our way to being competitive--gotta fill spots and draft the best.  I'd love to have him, but we lose to much and pay too much.  I think we need to use free agency wisely.   We need to sign free agents and draft people.  If we give up draft capital to take in huge salary, what are we doing?

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32 minutes ago, Jackson113.2 said:

 

https://oldnorthbanter.com/projected-panthers-myles-garrett-trade-package-lands-star-in-carolina-01jk6becydb6

 

That said, if that’s the starting price for Garrett, the Panthers would have to give up their 2025 first-round pick (8th overall), a 2026 first-round pick, a 2025 third-round pick, and potentially a Day 2 pick in 2026.

For a team like Carolina that might be too much to give up for a win-now player even though he would take this unit to new heights. Instead, the Panthers might be better off using those picks to fill various holes in the draft or to acquire under-the-radar players.

No. fug no. Garrett is a STUD but we just have way too many roster holes in large part because of another massive draft capital trade we made. We'd have half a decade of premium draft picks tied up in two players.

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9 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

There is no world where I'd ever be okay with giving up future 1st round picks, for any player, until we know if Bryce can be the future or not (and for all you Bryce backers, you can't honestly say he's already proven that he can be).

I also don't believe for a second that Garrett who is asking for a trade not because of money, but because he wants to win, would be okay with coming here where we're not 1 player away from winning.  All while at the same time, trading for him and extending would take us out at the knees to build the rest of the roster out that we'd need to actually contend anyways.

AND.... even if I were okay with it, I'd much rather go after Parsons than Garrett, younger and might actually be the better player as well.

Yeah nah I believe in Bryce and I'm not trading any future picks. But i very much disagree that Parsons is a better player than Garrett 

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37 minutes ago, Aussie Tank said:

Yeah nah I believe in Bryce and I'm not trading any future picks. But i very much disagree that Parsons is a better player than Garrett 

I'm not saying he is or isn't, they're probably the two best pass rushers in the game (Watt makes it a 3 man conversation for me), trying to say one is better than the other is more or less pointless.  But when Parsons is younger and there can even a debate between who is better, if I'm giving up too much to get anyone, I'm going with the guy who is 3.5 years younger every time.  

All of that is to say that I still don't think either is a good trade.  

That's a trade you make when that one player can push you into legitimate SB contention, and we're not that one player away even before you factor in the picks and cap room we'll lose to get him, all of which are needed to even get us just into playoff contention in the next couple years, let alone SB contention.

We're still years away from hoping to contend, every offseason we try to find the quick fix, all it is is one step forward and 3 steps back.  And this isn't about keeping the 8th pick for the hope at the guy everyone here knows I want, it's about building the roster up correctly, not throwing a hail mary while trying to fit the square peg into the round hole to expedite a process that realistically can't be expedited.

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