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Personally, I find it pathetic when fans of a team post threads about individuals that used to play for the Panthers. Its the football equivalent of google stalking your ex-girlfriend. But it seems to be a popular thing. Allow it in the panthers forum or no?

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I don't have a problem when the discussion is on filling a gap as it relates to current players because the skill set is the same and a norm has been established, but Jake is a Brown and Peppers is a Bear. I don't want Peppers to succeed but I would like to see Jake go out on a high note. However, the current players are all that really matter, so don't give me the statistical updates of ex-Panthers every game. That is a bit wack.

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All non-current Panthers ( meaning they aren't Panthers anymore ) should be posted in the NFL section, or the smack section. Leave this section strictly for Panthers news. It isn't hard to read and people should have been posting things in its proper place anyway.

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I guess I'll be one of the first to disagree. I think it depends obviously the situation varies. If someone eventually posts that through 6 games Peppers has been nonexistent I definitely have NO problem seeing that...it's actually something I would WANT to see and discuss. Though I would hate for it to become a FEATURED topic on the forum to the point it begins to take over, so an occasional thread that talks about the players current production is no problem to me (same reason why I read the Jake thread about him going 6-7).

But understand this is the Panthers Forum; so it's TECHNICALLY in the wrong place...

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