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1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't understand how people view Milroe and Dart better than him. Those guys have lower floors than Anthony Richardson. 

Milroe has the tools but was all over the place play wise. Dart has the upside and hype going back to HS and USC, but nothing that really sets him apart. 

And transferring to Ole Miss really masked where he is developmentally. Prospective NFL offensive talent should start avoiding that program. We’ve experienced that (Corral, Mingo, etc)

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1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

I don't understand how people view Milroe and Dart better than him. Those guys have lower floors than Anthony Richardson. 

Lower floors than AR coming out, or lower floors than AR now?  Are you counting that he has proven to be a productive goal line back?  AR as a prospect had just about the lowest floor you can possibly have.  Probably the same as Milroe.  Dart's floor looks a lot closer to backup QB to me, but the issue is that his ceiling doesn't look too far from that either.

It's crazy that teams are drafting scratch off lottery tickets at QB with 1st round picks.

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42 minutes ago, Bear Hands said:

Milroe has the tools but was all over the place play wise. Dart has the upside and hype going back to HS and USC, but nothing that really sets him apart. 

And transferring to Ole Miss really masked where he is developmentally. Prospective NFL offensive talent should start avoiding that program. We’ve experienced that (Corral, Mingo, etc)

Kiffens system is a damn qb killer.  Teaches incredibly bad habits.  If a team thinks they can coach that out of him then Dart has the size, speed and a great arm to try.

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5 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Kiffens system is a damn qb killer.  Teaches incredibly bad habits.  If a team thinks they can coach that out of him then Dart has the size, speed and a great arm to try.

I mean it got Corral drafted by the Panthers and ranked #1 in the class by Simms lol.  That dude had no shot at being a productive NFL QB.

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1 minute ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

I mean it got Corral drafted by the Panthers and ranked #1 in the class by Simms lol.  That dude had no shot at being a productive NFL QB.

There probably was a fine needle thread line where it could have worked to some level as the kid has talent.  But Rhule and fitt completely ruined him.  He wasnt mentally tough enough to overcome their fugery.  Trade up for the kid, tell everyone you had a first round grade on him, bury him on the depth chart behind Walker, get him killed behind a poo line and thats a wrap.  He never got a legit chance here

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What?  Jeanty to the Jags is picking up steam?

In what world does that make sense when they have Etienne and Bigsby already?  If they were picking in the late teens and Jeanty was still there, then sure, maybe you look at it as a great value pick and you trade one or both of those other RBs.

But taking one at #5 when you have two quality RBs already just seems like a HORRIBLE decision

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10 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

What?  Jeanty to the Jags is picking up steam?

In what world does that make sense when they have Etienne and Bigsby already?  If they were picking in the late teens and Jeanty was still there, then sure, maybe you look at it as a great value pick and you trade one or both of those other RBs.

But taking one at #5 when you have two quality RBs already just seems like a HORRIBLE decision

 

No one knows who the jags or jets are going to pick. Each have been link to about 10 different players and need each one of them.  

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2 hours ago, PNW_PantherMan said:

Lower floors than AR coming out, or lower floors than AR now?  Are you counting that he has proven to be a productive goal line back?  AR as a prospect had just about the lowest floor you can possibly have.  Probably the same as Milroe.  Dart's floor looks a lot closer to backup QB to me, but the issue is that his ceiling doesn't look too far from that either.

It's crazy that teams are drafting scratch off lottery tickets at QB with 1st round picks.

Lower floors than AR as a prospect. 

Now AR's floor is closer to JaMarcus Russell than it is Allen/Newton, IMO.

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1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

There probably was a fine needle thread line where it could have worked to some level as the kid has talent.  But Rhule and fitt completely ruined him.  He wasnt mentally tough enough to overcome their fugery.  Trade up for the kid, tell everyone you had a first round grade on him, bury him on the depth chart behind Walker, get him killed behind a poo line and thats a wrap.  He never got a legit chance here

I don't think they ruined him. He wasn't an NFL player. He never was.

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3 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

What?  Jeanty to the Jags is picking up steam?

In what world does that make sense when they have Etienne and Bigsby already?  If they were picking in the late teens and Jeanty was still there, then sure, maybe you look at it as a great value pick and you trade one or both of those other RBs.

But taking one at #5 when you have two quality RBs already just seems like a HORRIBLE decision

Won’t happen and isn’t worth considering.  They are posturing for a trade down obviously.

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