Round 1 - Panthers Select Tetairoa McMillan at Pick 8

[45catfan]

8 minutes ago, Krovvy said:

Also, the whole take a tight end over a true receiver part is asinine.

I think the point is we took a tall WR in round 1 last year.  So it was essentially a double dip when there were other needs, better value and to their point, a position that could have been addressed later. Jayden Higgins is darn near a replica of T-Mac.

[tukafan21]

1 minute ago, 45catfan said:

I think the point is we took a tall WR in round 1 last year.  So it was essentially a double dip when there were other needs, better value and to their point, a position that could have been addressed later. Jayden Higgins is darn near a replica of T-Mac.

If you think Higgins is a near replica of T-Mac, you're going to be more than pleasantly surprised when you see him out there for us this year.

Just as if you think "we took a tall WR in round 1 last year" means XL and T-Mac are remotely close to the same player.  Basically the ONLY thing that is similar about the two of them is that they're both 6'3" or taller, after that, the comparisons stop, unless you count that they're both now Carolina Panthers.

[45catfan]

3 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

If you think Higgins is a near replica of T-Mac, you're going to be more than pleasantly surprised when you see him out there for us this year.

Just as if you think "we took a tall WR in round 1 last year" means XL and T-Mac are remotely close to the same player.  Basically the ONLY thing that is similar about the two of them is that they're both 6'3" or taller, after that, the comparisons stop, unless you count that they're both now Carolina Panthers.

Cool.  I hope he does well. It was just a thin draft overall from a value standpoint to have a top 10-15 pick, save 3-4 guys.  Maybe T-Mac shows proves he was worth a top 10 pick.  I just know I routinely read/heard from football talking heads that (outside of Hunter--a hybrid player) the top WR in this class would have been at least WR6 in last year's class.

[tukafan21]

2 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Cool.  I hope he does well. It was just a thin draft overall from a value standpoint to have a top 10-15 pick, save 3-4 guys.  Maybe T-Mac shows proves he was worth a top 10 pick.  I just know I routinely read/heard from football talking heads that (outside of Hunter--a hybrid player) the top WR in this class would have been at least WR6 in last year's class.

Dead wrong.

If he had been in last year's class, he'd have been in contention with Odunze to be the 3rd WR taken after MHJ and Nabers.

Yes, I know Thomas Jr exploded for the best season of any of them and looks like a stud, but he was still picked in the 20's, and T-Mac would have gone before him.  Even if he didn't get taken before Odunze in the Top 10, he likely would have still gone Top 15 and be the next WR off the board.

[*FreeFua*]

18 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

I think the point is we took a tall WR in round 1 last year.  So it was essentially a double dip when there were other needs, better value and to their point, a position that could have been addressed later. Jayden Higgins is darn near a replica of T-Mac.

Xavier is 6’1” and in the 48th percentile for height I wouldn’t call that “tall”

TMac in the 94th percentile 

[tukafan21]

Just now, *FreeFua* said:

Xavier is 6’1” and in the 48th percentile for height I wouldn’t call that “tall”

TMac in the 94th percentile 

Sweet Jebus you're right, he is 6'1"

It's amazing how a guy can get measured at the combine at 6'1", but everyone still lists him at 6'3" and fans don't bother to go look at his combine measurement and think he's actually 6'3" 

I won't lie, I've thought he was 6'3" this whole time, he's listed as such on the team site, espn, wikipedia, everywhere.  But also on his wikipedia page are his combine measurements where it lists him at 6'1", crazy.

[ForJimmy]

4 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Dead wrong.

If he had been in last year's class, he'd have been in contention with Odunze to be the 3rd WR taken after MHJ and Nabers.

Yes, I know Thomas Jr exploded for the best season of any of them and looks like a stud, but he was still picked in the 20's, and T-Mac would have gone before him.  Even if he didn't get taken before Odunze in the Top 10, he likely would have still gone Top 15 and be the next WR off the board.

I have no clue where this WR6 thing is coming from. ESPN rated him just below Odunze over BTJ at 4 and Brugler has him at WR3 in last class. There has to be some random site showing this that I’ve yet to see. It’s a weird point as you won’t see many Nabers and MHJs in draft classes. OSU does have one coming up in 2 years but he will be a top 5 easy. 

[*FreeFua*]

2 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

Sweet Jebus you're right, he is 6'1"

It's amazing how a guy can get measured at the combine at 6'1", but everyone still lists him at 6'3" and fans don't bother to go look at his combine measurement and think he's actually 6'3" 

I won't lie, I've thought he was 6'3" this whole time, he's listed as such on the team site, espn, wikipedia, everywhere.  But also on his wikipedia page are his combine measurements where it lists him at 6'1", crazy.

6’1” with 9” hands which puts him in the 21st percentile which is concerning with his drop issue 

TMac 10” hands 87th percentile 

There’s always a few numbers I’m interested in seeing at the combine. (No the 40 isn’t one of them). WR’s I’m always interested in their hand size, true height (everyone always lies until it comes time for a true measurement) and 3 cone times

 

[DeadpoolPanther]

Was not expecting this pick at all. Great selection. I was thinking Walker from Georgia which I would’ve been ok with but he will never have the impact T-Mac will have out the gate. This kid will be a big help from day 1.

[Lurk21]

1 hour ago, DeadpoolPanther said:

Was not expecting this pick at all. Great selection. I was thinking Walker from Georgia which I would’ve been ok with but he will never have the impact T-Mac will have out the gate. This kid will be a big help from day 1.

I'll say a bunch of people should ge happy. Looking like Jalon  Walker may need shoulder surgery this year. The last thing we need was an undersized edge player going under the knife to start his career. GO ATLANTA!!!

[Car123]

I like this pick.

[tukafan21]

1 hour ago, Car123 said:

I like this pick.

I like this post.

LOL

72 hours after the pick is made, on the 42nd page of this thread, and just a very simple, "I like this pick"... what a post, love it (and no, this isn't sarcasm, it's just a hilariously awesome post this deep into the thread haha)

[DaveThePanther2008]

One thing I noticed about T-Mac is that he runs so fluidly. 

I saw during an interview with him and he was explaining how volleyball helped him in timing his jumps and body control. 

I wanted defense but after double dipping in round 2 and 3 on edge players I was happy about this pick. 

[carpanfan96]

14 hours ago, tukafan21 said:

Sweet Jebus you're right, he is 6'1"

It's amazing how a guy can get measured at the combine at 6'1", but everyone still lists him at 6'3" and fans don't bother to go look at his combine measurement and think he's actually 6'3" 

I won't lie, I've thought he was 6'3" this whole time, he's listed as such on the team site, espn, wikipedia, everywhere.  But also on his wikipedia page are his combine measurements where it lists him at 6'1", crazy.

6-1 without cleats, 6-3 with them. As far as I know, the combine is barefoot when measured and weighed. Means T-Mac plays at around 6-6 with cleats on.