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2025 NFL Draft - Round 1 Discussion


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Just now, carpanfan96 said:

That's a traditional sized OLB/edge rusher. We just drafted him to be a DE. I liked Burns more as an edge in a 3-4 than a DE. 

His size wasn't the problem. Has all the athleticism in the world. Just not a good tackler and doesn't take pride in setting the edge. Shemar Stewart is a closer comp imo. 

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4 minutes ago, Panthers Rhule said:

I wasn't big on him either but I didnt think he looked that bad to write him off so soon. 

 

I don't know... The only thing I think he has working for him is his athleticism. His hands are still awful and he doesn't know how to run good routes 

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3 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

because we literally just drafted his clone

They are not the same. Tet is 6 foot 4 with silky smooth agility and soft hands with 3 consistent years of good production in college at WR, while Legette was 6 foot 1, heavier, faster, more raw prospect with only one year of college production.

Just my opinion. McMillian is a was a much more established player coming out of college and Legette was a raw project the team was hoping to mold into a threat. Totally different circumstances and players. The only correlation is that they are both somewhat bigger WRs and neither having blazing down field speed. 

 

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