Houston Texans... You Suck!!!

[tukafan21]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/45057900/texans-jayden-higgins-makes-history-fully-guaranteed-deal

Seriously?  Giving a fully guaranteed contract to a 2nd rounder?!?!

They just made rookie contract negotiations with non 1st rounders so much more difficult as they're all going to be trying to get that moving forward now.  

It's been so nice since the rookie scale was instituted with so few players ever holding out, this feels like it could change things, especially for high 2nd round picks who are going to start asking for this immediately. 

[ChuckWag78]

And which one of ours picks hasn't signed yet...

 

[jb2288]

Wow I bet the owners are pissed

[tukafan21]

1 minute ago, jb2288 said:

Wow I bet the owners are pissed

I think GM's are more upset than owners

Owners spend the same amount of money every year as it's a hard cap with a floor minimum too.  It doesn't really change anything for them (other than possibly make things more difficult on the team in general).

But it's the GM's who need to negotiate these contracts who are really going to be pissed, if you're a skill position player that goes in the 2nd round now, you're going to be asking for this, and the higher you're drafted and/or the more unexpected it was for you to not go in the 1st, the stronger your case will be to insist on it.

[Lame Duck]

Terrible business decision.  Lazy negotiating.  

[BEASTfromdaEAST]

I'm all for fully guaranteed contracts for NFL players as a whole personally, so i say GO AHEAD YOUNG BULL!

These billionaire owners have been getting away with some BS in the NFL for years when NBA and MLB have found a way to do it. Granted more games, but still NFL\Owners could do it and if that douche Watson can get fully guaranteed than all these guys deserve it. 

Football is violent, aggressive and mostly detrimental to long term health.  Congrats to this young man getting paid!   

Quite been jealous over another mans success, congratulate and move one.

[Lurk21]

17 minutes ago, ChuckWag78 said:

And which one of ours picks hasn't signed yet...

 

1st thing I thought about .. Scourton is unsigned...

[Admiral Ackbar]

I think this has more to do with NIL deals in college than the Texans.

[frankw]

Things like this are only going to become an inevitability over time anyways. NIL has opened the door for it and honestly I don't blame these young players one bit. This money is a drop in the bucket compared to profits the league makes. No pity party for the owners here.

The only thing I'd say in relation to the Panthers is going forward we better start drafting well because if you're going to get held over a barrel by a draft pick they better damn well not end up being a bust.

[tukafan21]

1 hour ago, BEASTfromdaEAST said:

I'm all for fully guaranteed contracts for NFL players as a whole personally, so i say GO AHEAD YOUNG BULL!

These billionaire owners have been getting away with some BS in the NFL for years when NBA and MLB have found a way to do it. Granted more games, but still NFL\Owners could do it and if that douche Watson can get fully guaranteed than all these guys deserve it. 

Football is violent, aggressive and mostly detrimental to long term health.  Congrats to this young man getting paid!   

Quite been jealous over another mans success, congratulate and move one.

It's not jealousy and I don't care one way or another if players have guaranteed deals or not.

But when one team starts doing something like this, it can mess with the rest of the league for a few years until things settle down, so it can affect us, which I do care about, that's all

[BEASTfromdaEAST]

5 minutes ago, tukafan21 said:

It's not jealousy and I don't care one way or another if players have guaranteed deals or not.

But when one team starts doing something like this, it can mess with the rest of the league for a few years until things settle down, so it can affect us, which I do care about, that's all

No doubt, but unless you get drafted like top 20 in the league now you really are not making much or at least taking up room on the CAP. 

So again I am a believer ALL NFL contracts should be guaranteed money, so I for one celebrate these guys wanting that and hopefully drive these billionaires to cough up more of their money to literally start spreading the wealth. 

[Davidson Deac II]

1 hour ago, Admiral Ackbar said:

I think this has more to do with NIL deals in college than the Texans.

I don't think he can go back to college, so why would NIL matter? 

[jfra78]

I'm not worried about this, just because the Texans did it doesn't mean the whole league will

[tukafan21]

12 minutes ago, BEASTfromdaEAST said:

No doubt, but unless you get drafted like top 20 in the league now you really are not making much or at least taking up room on the CAP. 

So again I am a believer ALL NFL contracts should be guaranteed money, so I for one celebrate these guys wanting that and hopefully drive these billionaires to cough up more of their money to literally start spreading the wealth. 

Again, it's not about billionaires coughing up their money, guaranteed contracts wouldn't cots a penny more out of the owners pockets as teams have to spend their cap room every season.  The only times they don't spend it all, it's to roll it over into the next year to spend more than the cap, so they're still spending the same amount of money in the end.

Fully guaranteed contracts for all players wouldn't work in the NFL

Not having them actually works to the benefit of both teams and players, as it's how teams manage the cap and it allows players to get to re-negotiate new guaranteed money faster.

Plus, with how often those role players get churned through because they show flashes but don't pan out, would really limit how much teams would be willing to spend on them and give more than 1 or 2 year contracts.  It would create even more of an unbalanced pay structure to where the stars would make even more of a percentage of the cap than they already do.