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Strength of Schedule for 2025


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Vegas knows what's up. No one is really accounting for players having a down season or anomalies in stats, it'salways hope of steady improvement which has been very rare around these parts. Remember when the team had a 2nd ranking in yards allowed the year before and then proved it was just an anomily from poorly understanding how all the stats relate because the other teams didn't need yards to run up the scores? This team screams of similar things. 6 wins looks like a solid bet. I'll belive in more when it actually shows up to belive in consistently.

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With the additions we've made to our roster combined with the state of the division and the conference as a whole there is no excuse for this team not to make a legitimate push for 8-9 wins. Anything less is honestly inexcusable. There will be no more free passes for being a doormat in this iteration of the league where even mediocre teams are competing for playoff spots.

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3 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

New season new teams. Everyone we face has improved their team as well. There's now a full season of tape on Canales's offense and Bryce running it. When they win 7 games I will become a believer. 

Normally I'd wholeheartedly agree with this. But I feel like teams figured out this offense after the Raiders game. Bryce was so inept the first 2 games that we couldn't really even run the offense. Dalton's first game showed what we had. But after that game, coverages got a lot tighter and windows were smaller. When Bryce came back in, his ability to extend plays made a big difference. It's really difficult to stop a QB that can beat/escape 1on1 tacklers. It puts a lot of pressure on the defense when you blitz. And he was completing throws in tight coverage with anticipation. Point being Bryce wasn't throwing to wide open receivers that were schemed open by the offense. Occasionally yes. But not often. 

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Bryce and Dave will determine how many games this team wins next year. It’s not on the WRs. The RBs. LBs. This is about 2 things:

1. Can Bryce continue to come up big in the few key downs that decide most games? 

2. Can Canales evolve his play calling to counter punch like the big boys do. Half time adjustments. 

teams that score 30+ points on the regular win more games than not. That’s on Bryce and Dave. The offense is top 10 at every position group, save for TE and QB. A baller TE is gravy but not crucial when the receivers are dudes. 

The defense is the defense. It’ll be better this season, hopefully by a large margin, but Dave/Bryce is really where it’s at. 

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3 hours ago, Gapanthersfan said:

Bryce and Dave will determine how many games this team wins next year. It’s not on the WRs. The RBs. LBs. This is about 2 things:

1. Can Bryce continue to come up big in the few key downs that decide most games? 

2. Can Canales evolve his play calling to counter punch like the big boys do. Half time adjustments. 

teams that score 30+ points on the regular win more games than not. That’s on Bryce and Dave. The offense is top 10 at every position group, save for TE and QB. A baller TE is gravy but not crucial when the receivers are dudes. 

The defense is the defense. It’ll be better this season, hopefully by a large margin, but Dave/Bryce is really where it’s at. 

I think there's a ton of potential in that WR room. But they really are unproven right now. Hopefully they live up to the hype.

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17 hours ago, MHS831 said:

We won 5 with the worst defense in the history of defenses.  I think free agency and our draft puts us over 6.5.

The most telling sign, IMO, of a team on the upward swing is who we lost in the off-season. Who left that even saw the field? Woods, Clowney, Sanders, & Hekker. OK...no big deal. Clowney is the only 1 that I raised an eyebrow over and I get that it was a money decision. No need to pay him over $7M to take snaps from our draft picks when he was just OK last year.

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It's not so favorable when you look a t the home and away.  We play the weaker teams on the road and the tougher teams at home.  If it were reversed, I think we could have a higher win total.  My rationale is as follows--we are likely to lose to the better teams wherever we play, but if we had the weaker teams at home, those would be closer to automatic wins.  Even bad teams put up at fight on their home turfs.

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