Well, the Niners just doomed themselves to mediocrity

[Panthers Rhule]

11 minutes ago, Waldo said:

I don't think they can overcome that mistake. Hell Lance was a hiccup compared to this. He isn't going to be able to carry that price tag and now he is going to have to do just that. Lol. The NFL is so dumb sometimes.

[Shocker]

It’s a great story for the last player drafted but that contract is crazy

[Khyber53]

Hmm. I think he'll live up to it.

Last year, about half of his team was on IR it seems, at one time or another.

Year before, Super Bowl appearance.

Year before that, playoff run after being third on the depth chart and being pressed into service.

Is he one of the greatest in the game right now? Nope. No chance of that. Is he in the top 10 going into next season? Pretty good chance of that. 

Would 20 or more teams in this league love to have the guy as their starting QB. Most likely so.

He's a good QB who can implement his coach's game plan to a T and has both the confidence of and confidence in his teammates. That'll take you a long way in this league if you've got the right cast around you, and he does.

 

[Waldo]

26 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Hmm. I think he'll live up to it.

Last year, about half of his team was on IR it seems, at one time or another.

Year before, Super Bowl appearance.

Year before that, playoff run after being third on the depth chart and being pressed into service.

Is he one of the greatest in the game right now? Nope. No chance of that. Is he in the top 10 going into next season? Pretty good chance of that. 

Would 20 or more teams in this league love to have the guy as their starting QB. Most likely so.

He's a good QB who can implement his coach's game plan to a T and has both the confidence of and confidence in his teammates. That'll take you a long way in this league if you've got the right cast around you, and he does.

 

They will still be a playoff team but they aren't contenders anymore IMO. They won't be able to spend like they have when they went to a SB and proved he couldn't carry a win at that level with a really good team around him. Now he is going to have to do it with less to spend around him. They just locked in to being a playoff bound team that's going to be a known speed bump for whoever will represent the NFC in the SB.

[Loyalty4Life]

Option A:  Pay your starting QB starting QB money.

Option B:  Look for a starting QB for 4-10 years (or longer) while wasting the talent at every other position. 

 

How many of the top 20 QB's do you think are worth what they are being paid?   When you factor in the last year of his present deal his contract is really an average of 45 million per year which in today's QB market is a very, very good deal.

I wish we'd had found a Brock Purdy to pay 50+ million a year right after we parted ways with Cam.  Ya'll go ahead and live in fairy tale land where good to great (much less elite) QB's are available to pay.

Just the fact that they had the chance to pay Brock after the disaster of trading up for Lance is a testament that when you find a quarter back you can win with, complete in the playoffs and superbowls with, you pay him.

 

[tukafan21]

41 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

Hmm. I think he'll live up to it.

Last year, about half of his team was on IR it seems, at one time or another.

Year before, Super Bowl appearance.

Year before that, playoff run after being third on the depth chart and being pressed into service.

Is he one of the greatest in the game right now? Nope. No chance of that. Is he in the top 10 going into next season? Pretty good chance of that. 

Would 20 or more teams in this league love to have the guy as their starting QB. Most likely so.

He's a good QB who can implement his coach's game plan to a T and has both the confidence of and confidence in his teammates. That'll take you a long way in this league if you've got the right cast around you, and he does.

 

Um, no, just no.

Bills, Chiefs, Chargers, Ravens, Bengals, Texans, Eagles, Commanders are 8 teams that it's not even a debate, they aren't trading their QB for Purdy.

Patriots, Broncos, Titans, Giants, Bears, Vikings, Falcons are 7 more teams with QBs drafted in the last 2 years that also would rather stick with them than trade for Purdy as they all have more upside than he does.

Lions, Packers, Cowboys, Bucs are 4 more that would likely keep their QB's as well, age aside for Goff, Dak, and Baker.

Panthers and Colts are two teams in the same situation, QB's who have both struggled and shown flashes to where the teams probably stick with them because they drafted them, but in a re-draft of all QB's, they probably take Purdy over the guy they currently have.

Jags, Cardinals, Dolphins, are 3 more with QB's who probably have a higher upside than Purdy but come with their own question marks, so debatable if they'd take Purdy over who they already have.

That leaves Jets, Raiders, Steelers, Browns, Saints, Seahawks, and Rams.

Rams would take him over Stafford for the future of course, but not for 2025, and I'd think the Seahawks would take him over Darnold, but honestly not sure if they would take him over Milroe at this moment as they really like his potential and have him for 4 years really cheap.

That leaves 5 teams that I see who would absolutely take him over their current situation right now, and a handful of others who MIGHT take him over their current guy, a far cry from your 20.

 

Edited 3 hours ago by tukafan21

[LinvilleGorge]

2 hours ago, Rags said:

Jalen Hurts has entered the chat.

Eagles get away with it by having a cheap defense. Remains to be seen if the 49ers can pull it off

Hurts is an elite threat with his legs though. He's gonna stress an opposing DC a lot more than Brock Purdy.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, Panthers Rhule said:

Well, since 2015, the last time our QB played in a SB, there have only been 12 QBs in a SB including ours. Purdy is one of those 12 and of those 12 only about half would be considered better than good but they all got there which is more than most good QBs and even some great ones. Some people are just winners even if they aren't great. If SF didn't pat him he would have walked and then they are back to  where they were before Purdy. Great team desperately throwing qbs on the field hoping one stuck. They got lucky once. Would they get lucky again? He's one of the highest paid this year. But by the time that contract ends he won't be. Every SB QB becomes one of the highest paid the year they sign it. Even some who don't go to SBs like Lamar. I don't see how it's a bad move. 

 

 

Just a winner? He went 6-9 last year. Just because a guy got carried to the SB by elite surrounding talent doesn't mean much. How did Nick Files pan out after catching lightning on a bottle?

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, Shocker said:

It’s a great story for the last player drafted but that contract is crazy

100%. I may not think a lot of him as a player but I am happy for him as a person for getting that bag. Especially as Mr. Irrelevant. Great story, even if he doesn't get to the ultimate NFL heights.

[kungfoodude]

7 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Hurts is an elite threat with his legs though. He's gonna stress an opposing DC a lot more than Brock Purdy.

I would counter that although he is certainly not Hurts/Jackson, Purdy is pretty mobile. Surprisingly so, at times.

[X-Clown]

43 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Just a winner? He went 6-9 last year. Just because a guy got carried to the SB by elite surrounding talent doesn't mean much. How did Nick Files pan out after catching lightning on a bottle?

We watched Jimmy Garoppolo get to the Super Bowl with most of the same great team, how much did his career change when he was asked to carry a team like in Vegas?

[SmokinwithWilly]

We haven't had back to back winning seasons as a franchise in 3 decades. Im not going to criticize another team that's making the playoffs on a regular basis. There isn't anyone on this board who wouldn't be thrilled if we had done what the 9ers have done the past few years. I'd take the mediocrity the 49ers have experienced over the slog through the sewer that has been the Panthers since Tepper bought the team. 

[LinvilleGorge]

44 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I would counter that although he is certainly not Hurts/Jackson, Purdy is pretty mobile. Surprisingly so, at times.

Decently so but nowhere near the threat that Hurts is. You have to actively prepare for Hurts as a runner, especially in short yardage situation. It's just in the back of your mind with Purdy. You just can't completely discount his ability to scramble but it's not something you're actively preparing for.

[LinvilleGorge]

10 minutes ago, X-Clown said:

We watched Jimmy Garoppolo get to the Super Bowl with most of the same great team, how much did his career change when he was asked to carry a team like in Vegas?

Bingo.