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1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

I guess to make it more clear, Bailey doesn’t want to play for Charlotte. He declined a pre draft visit and has a list of teams he wants to play for. Just not ideal for a young team that lacks winning culture right now. I’d prefer to trade with another team if it’s there and the compensation is right. Trying to force a young man to take millions of dollars to play for us seems like a bad idea. 

He hasn’t worked out for anybody and only scheduled one work out, which he cancelled (76ers). I’ve heard he doesn’t want to play for certain teams, but I’ve never seen any proof that the Hornets are specifically one of them, just speculation and guesswork. Either way, the Hornets don’t get a pass for trading Kobe just because Kobe wanted to go to a bigger market, and if Ace Bailey turns out to be great they won’t get a pass for passing up on him either, so they should draft him either way.

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2 hours ago, scratched said:

 

You comparing this guy to Singler and Scheyer is all I need to know about your opinion. He is the best fit for our team right now, I don't think that can be argued. Should we pick him at #4? That can be argued, as I think we could trade back a few picks to get him. With that being said, I think we trade back in the 6-8 range and pick Kon. 

Their defensive weaknesses in their draft profiles read like carbon copies, lack of athleticism to match with superior nba athletes, lateral agility, etc. Like I said, there’s no shortage of defensive liability mid athletes who can catch and shoot 3s. He’s projected high because he’s a tall guard who shot a high % and he defended well in college, but he doesn’t even have good length for his height and every single draft profile has questions about his ability to defend at the next level. If he stayed in school another year and dipped to even 38% from 3 he’d be a late first maybe second. He’s getting hype off small sample size where his weaknesses weren’t sufficiently exposed and an efficiency rate that is all but guaranteed to come down. Singler was a projected lotto pick after 1 year, too, he just stayed in school long enough for everybody to see how low his ceiling was.

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23 minutes ago, WUnderhill said:

He hasn’t worked out for anybody and only scheduled one work out, which he cancelled (76ers). I’ve heard he doesn’t want to play for certain teams, but I’ve never seen any proof that the Hornets are specifically one of them, just speculation and guesswork. Either way, the Hornets don’t get a pass for trading Kobe just because Kobe wanted to go to a bigger market, and if Ace Bailey turns out to be great they won’t get a pass for passing up on him either, so they should draft him either way.

His camp is claiming he doesn't want to play for the Hornets or Jazz.  Let's be real, if he is trying to avoid any team (which it looks like he is) we are most likely one of them...  Again if he comes here and is all in them I'm of course good with it.   We are just much to fragile to handle any drama at this point in our franchise.

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51 minutes ago, WUnderhill said:

Their defensive weaknesses in their draft profiles read like carbon copies, lack of athleticism to match with superior nba athletes, lateral agility, etc. Like I said, there’s no shortage of defensive liability mid athletes who can catch and shoot 3s. He’s projected high because he’s a tall guard who shot a high % and he defended well in college, but he doesn’t even have good length for his height and every single draft profile has questions about his ability to defend at the next level. If he stayed in school another year and dipped to even 38% from 3 he’d be a late first maybe second. He’s getting hype off small sample size where his weaknesses weren’t sufficiently exposed and an efficiency rate that is all but guaranteed to come down. Singler was a projected lotto pick after 1 year, too, he just stayed in school long enough for everybody to see how low his ceiling was.

It's all about the fit... And Kon fits with this team. Bailey has bust written all over him in my opinion. A lineup of Miller, Ball, Bailey, Bridges, and Williams? Thats what you want to roll with? Tell me who the shooter is that keeps defenders from collapsing on Ball and Miller as they drive to the lane? Kon is a perfect fit with the guys we have as projected starters. JMO...And you talk about a small sample size? How much do we have on Bailey? He played alongside Harper, put up good numbers but they couldn't win. We can't keep building a team of 6'7" guys who have no true position on the court. WE NEED SHOOTERS!!! 

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1 hour ago, ForJimmy said:

His camp is claiming he doesn't want to play for the Hornets or Jazz.  Let's be real, if he is trying to avoid any team (which it looks like he is) we are most likely one of them...  Again if he comes here and is all in them I'm of course good with it.   We are just much to fragile to handle any drama at this point in our franchise.

I hadn’t seen that they singled out the Hornets and Jazz…that sucks. Still they should draft him, I don’t think teams in general should bend to players trying to dictate who drafts them.

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1 hour ago, WUnderhill said:

I hadn’t seen that they singled out the Hornets and Jazz…that sucks. Still they should draft him, I don’t think teams in general should bend to players trying to dictate who drafts them.

Sounds like Kobe Bryant.  John Elway.  Eli Manning.  I sense the Hornets will trade out of the #4 pick.  (I am not a huge fan--just thinking that is what I would do. 

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2 hours ago, WUnderhill said:

I hadn’t seen that they singled out the Hornets and Jazz…that sucks. Still they should draft him, I don’t think teams in general should bend to players trying to dictate who drafts them.

I've just heard he wants to play for the wizards which means he doesn't give a fug about winning and wants to jack up poo shots. Sounds like he'd fit in perfect with melo.  Id draft him then try to trade him and if we can't get anything good then so be it.

 

Should probably fire lee and hire Malone or Thibs while we are at it. 

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VJ should be the pick.  And I just watched videos today and have not kept up, but I was very impressed with his motor and athleticism.  Those kinds of players make teammates better, imo.  I am enjoying reading your comments--I am so much an outsider on this one but I used to love them From Kelly Tripuka and Rambis to Grand Ma Ma and zo---then it is like we quit.

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