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Did not like Teddy as a football player but he seems like a good dude. I guess this is the “if you’re going to bring in a snack you need to bring enough for the whole class” penalty because of the care he gave to the team the other schools can’t compete. It’s a shame that doing good for some kids who likely have a rough home life is punished these days. 

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2 hours ago, CRA said:

given this is the NIL era (open bags of cash to play)......this is completely stupid. 

What has happened in HS athletics busted full force into the college world with this NIL/transfer portal stuff. HS sports has been jacked up for a long time now. You have all these "prep schools" that are basically just diploma mills for athletes who hoover up all the good athletes they can get and they're all on scholarship. Then they go out and recruit decent athletes with rich parents to come onboard and pay outrageous tuition while they tout their success at getting their athletes college scholarships. Yeah, those athletes getting college scholarships are the same ones you're giving scholarships to so that you can use them to recruit the rich kids whose parents can pay for it all. You see the same thing in youth travel ball leagues. The whole thing is just getting crazy.

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1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

What has happened in HS athletics busted full force into the college world with this NIL/transfer portal stuff. HS sports has been jacked up for a long time now. You have all these "prep schools" that are basically just diploma mills for athletes who hoover up all the good athletes they can get and they're all on scholarship. Then they go out and recruit decent athletes with rich parents to come onboard and pay outrageous tuition while they tout their success at getting their athletes college scholarships. Yeah, those athletes getting college scholarships are the same ones you're giving scholarships to so that you can use them to recruit the rich kids whose parents can pay for it all. You see the same thing in youth travel ball leagues. The whole thing is just getting crazy.

yeah, sports at all levels is screwed.   Agree w/ all you said. 

really wish rec leagues could break travel up and make a comeback.  99% of travel ball is just rec ball but with an insane price tag. 

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33 minutes ago, CRA said:

yeah, sports at all levels is screwed.   Agree w/ all you said. 

really wish rec leagues could break travel up and make a comeback.  99% of travel ball is just rec ball but with an insane price tag. 

Travel Ball is the way to get your kid a full scholarship. I have 2 coworkers that got their sons scholarships playing baseball. One even got both his sons in private schools that way. 

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1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

Travel Ball is the way to get your kid a full scholarship. I have 2 coworkers that got their sons scholarships playing baseball. One even got both his sons in private schools that way. 

overwhelming majority of kids in travel ball aren't getting scholarships though because most teams are rec caliber (and not watched by scouts)   

and parents/leagues sort of helped create this system and narrative IMO where travel ball is now oversaturated and most of it is simply expensive rec ball. 

is travel beneficial for some athletes to get more exposure? Sure. The ones travel actually existed for.   I still think travel has expanded entirely too broad at this stage......where they will now have 5 teams per year in your backyard area pending they can get parents to write those checks.   Ain't no scout ever laying eyes on 90%+ of the kids in travel ball at this stage of where it has morphed into. 

 

 

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9 hours ago, NAS said:

Meanwhile Epstein list of pedophiles and rapists is nowhere to be found

What are you talking a bout?!?!?! There is no list!!!!!!!!!

Well....... excuse me........ if there is a list it was a total hoax made up by a kenyan born leadership!!!!!!!!! Besides what can of moron cares about human trafficking and rape????? All made up, trust me bro.......

 

Talk about a fumble recovered for a TD type of swing, just terrible handling after all the statements and the more talking the farther the foot gos in mouth. 

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On 7/15/2025 at 11:19 AM, LinvilleGorge said:

What has happened in HS athletics busted full force into the college world with this NIL/transfer portal stuff. HS sports has been jacked up for a long time now. You have all these "prep schools" that are basically just diploma mills for athletes who hoover up all the good athletes they can get and they're all on scholarship. Then they go out and recruit decent athletes with rich parents to come onboard and pay outrageous tuition while they tout their success at getting their athletes college scholarships. Yeah, those athletes getting college scholarships are the same ones you're giving scholarships to so that you can use them to recruit the rich kids whose parents can pay for it all. You see the same thing in youth travel ball leagues. The whole thing is just getting crazy.

College was 1,000,000x worse than HS. I can personally attest to this. Especially pre-NIL. Holy poo was it a sewer. Most of the AAU corruption came directly from colleges/coaches/alum or shoe companies through nefarious channels.

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22 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

College was 1,000,000x worse than HS. I can personally attest to this. Especially pre-NIL. Holy poo was it a sewer. Most of the AAU corruption came directly from colleges/coaches/alum or shoe companies through nefarious channels.

Prior to NIL and the transfer portal you at least didn't have the open free agency that has existed at the HS level for years.

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On 7/14/2025 at 5:55 PM, TD alt said:

Who cares if he paid for such small benefits out of his own pocket? The NCAA is a joke. They need to be offering such anyway, especially for Uber rides (which actually seems like a good idea).

This is high school. 
 

they don’t need to be offering anything a typical student wouldn’t get. They are STUDENT-athletes. They are athletes second and that is a distant second in the grand scheme of things. As such, they shouldn’t get any more benefit than a theatre or band kid. 
 

but I digress, I’m sure I’ll be flamed for that opinion as we are in an era of putting everyone who plays sports on a pedestal, no matter how young.

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46 minutes ago, CPcavedweller said:

This is high school. 
 

they don’t need to be offering anything a typical student wouldn’t get. They are STUDENT-athletes. They are athletes second and that is a distant second in the grand scheme of things. As such, they shouldn’t get any more benefit than a theatre or band kid. 
 

but I digress, I’m sure I’ll be flamed for that opinion as we are in an era of putting everyone who plays sports on a pedestal, no matter how young.

OK, I didn't realize this was about high school, but...if I'm spending my personal money trying to help some kids out, then no one is going to tell me how to spend my money. I get enough of the government spending my money--allocating my tax dollars--to children who don't really need anything, and now they're trying to tell me how to spend my personal money? Sure, there are many other issues to consider and rabbit holes that we could go down due to ethical concerns because it concerns kids, and the need for transparency is extremely important, but maybe as opposed to trying to stop kids from benefitting in darkness, we need to open up the blinds (and blinders) a little bit so that they can benefit in the light.

I get where you're coming from, but this is a loaded and layered issue, and I'm just trying to give you some food for thought. 

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1 hour ago, CPcavedweller said:

they don’t need to be offering anything a typical student wouldn’t get. They are STUDENT-athletes. They are athletes second and that is a distant second in the grand scheme of things. As such, they shouldn’t get any more benefit than a theatre or band kid. 

So if one of the parents wants to buy the theatre group or the band lunch they should get banned?

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