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3 hours ago, XClown1986 said:

I think Canales needs to pull Raheem Blackshear off of returns for these last two preseason games. That's really the best way to gauge whether or not one of these borderline guys can contribute in other ways. It is not looking like Blackshear is going to make the 53, so those are wasted reps imo. Split time between Horn and Renfrow and see what we have.

Also, Canales loves David Moore, so dismissing him is a mistake on fans' part. He plays special teams well and can be depended on, if needed, to make plays on offense. That's valuable for a 4th-5th receiver. I don't think he is a 100% lock, but there is something to be said for the trust Dave has in him.

I think Renfrow is pretty much a proven commodity at PR.  He can do it.  He also has a ceiling there pretty well established.  He can make a guy miss but he isn’t housing one.  They know what he is there IMO more than anyone else on the roster.   I’d rather they just let Horn have them.   He is the unknown.  

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4 hours ago, XClown1986 said:

I think Canales needs to pull Raheem Blackshear off of returns for these last two preseason games. That's really the best way to gauge whether or not one of these borderline guys can contribute in other ways. It is not looking like Blackshear is going to make the 53, so those are wasted reps imo. Split time between Horn and Renfrow and see what we have.

Also, Canales loves David Moore, so dismissing him is a mistake on fans' part. He plays special teams well and can be depended on, if needed, to make plays on offense. That's valuable for a 4th-5th receiver. I don't think he is a 100% lock, but there is something to be said for the trust Dave has in him.

 

He's been reliable for us.  It's a crowded room though.  And just saw this

 


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David Moore had the worst Average Separation Score of all WRs in 2024 and it wasn't close

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57 minutes ago, Icege said:

 

I'll say it - underthrown. Easy uncontested TD in the back corner but instead Legette had to slow up and make a great play to get it.

I'll also say that it's a single throw in a random practice and I have paid absolutely zero attention to anything Panthers related in the past several months so my comment on this play is just that - a comment on this play and this play only. For all I know that might have been the worst throw of camp and whoever threw it (I assume Bryce) has looked like the second coming of whatever QB one may feel is the greatest of all time with every other throw.

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23 minutes ago, KSpan said:

I'll say it - underthrown. Easy uncontested TD in the back corner but instead Legette had to slow up and make a great play to get it.

I'll also say that it's a single throw in a random practice and I have paid absolutely zero attention to anything Panthers related in the past several months so my comment on this play is just that - a comment on this play and this play only. For all I know that might have been the worst throw of camp and whoever threw it (I assume Bryce) has looked like the second coming of whatever QB one may feel is the greatest of all time with every other throw.

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38 minutes ago, Captain Morgan said:

 

He's been reliable for us.  It's a crowded room though.  And just saw this

 


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David Moore had the worst Average Separation Score of all WRs in 2024 and it wasn't close

Moore was 151st in yards after catch per reception.  Horrific.

and despite all the fixation on XL, Canales’ vet had the 2nd highest drop% in the team and 25th highest among WRs

 

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9 minutes ago, CRA said:

Moore was 151st in yards after catch per reception.  Horrific.

and despite all the fixation on XL, Canales’ vet had the 2nd highest drop% in the team and 25th highest among WRs

 

Yeah, there's just no justification for keeping him on the roster. No more Karl Hanktons taking up a roster spot basically exclusively for special teams. If you're not kicking or long snapping you need to be able to plausibly contribute somewhere outside of special teams.

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54 minutes ago, KSpan said:

I'll say it - underthrown. Easy uncontested TD in the back corner but instead Legette had to slow up and make a great play to get it.

I'll also say that it's a single throw in a random practice and I have paid absolutely zero attention to anything Panthers related in the past several months so my comment on this play is just that - a comment on this play and this play only. For all I know that might have been the worst throw of camp and whoever threw it (I assume Bryce) has looked like the second coming of whatever QB one may feel is the greatest of all time with every other throw.

You didn't have to say it

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