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Preseason Panthers v Texans official game day thread

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6 minutes ago, CPantherKing said:

Improvement over Bryce and Dalton, and I agree he's not roster material

This statement is true.  And is also incredibly sad.

a non-NFL QB is an improvement over our first overall pick and 10+ year NFL starter. 
 

carolina panthers football, baby!

*Tepper throws a drink on a fan somewhere*

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1 minute ago, jb2288 said:

Just got back from golfing and see Bryce was 0/2 and from reading the thread sounds like 2 drops by JT and TMac. But we’re talking about drafting Arch next season? What is happening 

Bryce jogged around a little like he was playing freeze tag.  Receivers acted like they'd already been tagged/frozen.

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Yeah, he was. But a ball placement that slowed him down brought the defender back into the play resulting in a contested pass. It was just a subpar throw to a subpar receiver against an All-Pro DB. Nothing about the result should be surprising.

Ok, sure, might meet the definition of a contested catch. You know that better than me. 👍 but rewatching it, not like Stinglry affected the outcome of the play. 

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4 minutes ago, frankw said:

He isn't going to play any better regardless. The inept New Orleans Saints knew what time it was two years ago. But we saw fit to make him a culture builder.

I like Dalton as a person a lot. I don't know he's a top-20 backup at this point.

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      By SmokinwithWilly · Posted

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