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Answers to the QB equation


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11 minutes ago, Castavar said:

Cam at his age and bum shoulder is STILL more of a playmaker than current Bryce and I would take him back in a heartbeat. 

A 50% cam with these weapons competes for the division. These defenders playing right now would have no idea how to deal with cam. Everybody that played against cam is either gone or damn sure on last legs. Lol 

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12 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

He threw two passes…

It's year 3 and the immense hype with Bryce Young revolved around what was widely regarded as "elite" processing ability. Against the Texans defense he looked quite literally out of his element. Even the most eternal optimist would have to concur this is concerning. At some point as a young QB developing you can't keep going up and down like a see saw. Especially if the narrative is that you've had poor coaching poor talent poor everything. Now we have talent we have a young supposedly innovative offensive minded head coach. That narrative is going up in smoke.

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Just now, frankw said:

It's year 3 and the immense hype with Bryce Young revolved around what was widely regarded as "elite" processing ability. Against the Texans defense he looked quite literally out of his element. Even the most eternal optimist would have to concur this is concerning. At some point as a young QB developing you can't keep going up and down like a see saw. Especially if the narrative is that you've had poor coaching poor talent poor everything. Now we have talent we have a young supposedly innovative offensive minded head coach. That narrative is going up in smoke.

This message way too long for the preseason. Save the drama and hit me when the games count bro. 

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Just now, AceBoogie said:

This message way too long for the preseason. Save the drama and hit me when the games count bro. 

I mean these players were ready to physically fall out in the Texas heat. You think it's not going to get ugly in Jacksonville week 1? We'll see.

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1 minute ago, frankw said:

It's year 3 and the immense hype with Bryce Young revolved around what was widely regarded as "elite" processing ability. Against the Texans defense he looked quite literally out of his element. Even the most eternal optimist would have to concur this is concerning. At some point as a young QB developing you can't keep going up and down like a see saw. Especially if the narrative is that you've had poor coaching poor talent poor everything. Now we have talent we have a young supposedly innovative offensive minded head coach. That narrative is going up in smoke.

I wouldn't overly worry about it, TBH. We will likely know what we have by about halfway through the season if not earlier. 

Even had Bryce been tearing it up, I would be preaching the same thing. It's preseason so the takeaways are lesser than normal. 

Just let it play out.

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Just now, kungfoodude said:

I wouldn't overly worry about it, TBH. We will likely know what we have by about halfway through the season if not earlier. 

Even had Bryce been tearing it up, I would be preaching the same thing. It's preseason so the takeaways are lesser than normal. 

Just let it play out.

At this rate we'll know within the first 5 games. This team certainly isn't hiding anything up their sleeve.

Best case scenario is if we do suck just let it continue naturally and hope to get a top 5 pick. No more in season scapegoating.

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3 minutes ago, frankw said:

At this rate we'll know within the first 5 games. This team certainly isn't hiding anything up their sleeve.

Best case scenario is if we do suck just let it continue naturally and hope to get a top 5 pick. No more in season scapegoating.

Well, we could have said that last season too but Bryce came back from the dead.

But, if he has to do so again, it will be a pretty big red flag.

Even if he bombs, putting Dalton(or any off the street FA JAG) in has a limited spark potential. 

We likely live and die on that side of the ball by what Bryce does. 

I am not gonna get too high nor too low about it. It just is what it is at this point.

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