Moton extension. 2 more years, $44M

[carpanfan96]

2 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

We haven't had New Orleans level cap issues but we also are projected(prior to this deal) to have just $17.7 mil in cap space next season. That's pretty bad when you consider what we are getting in return.

That was also counting 4.8m for Moton from his previous restructure. 

[kungfoodude]

Supposedly we have like $19 mil in cap already available. If we are having to "clear" cap space for a move......this does not sound good. This sounds like the prelude to a panic move.

[Jay Roosevelt]

50 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

he has been paid, handsomely, you dont give new guaranteed deals on past performance................unless you are the panthers

I don't see any reason to think he doesn't have 2 more good years left. I think the knee issue has been overblown. My only question is why we didn't do this in February or March. We could have used the extra cap space to sign more help on defense.

[kungfoodude]

Just now, carpanfan96 said:

That was also counting 4.8m for Moton from his previous restructure. 

Yes and not his new and likely larger actual cap figure.

[PleaseCutStewart]

Not the worst move - we can theoretically draft his replacement next year and then after 2027, cut ties if his play falls off or if he can't stay healthy

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, ECHornet said:

Nice framing of the extension by you. I wonder why your friend didn’t respond positively. 

Nice framing? You mean just telling the truth?

[Icege]

13 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

For like the 10th time on this thread, he is signed for the 2025 season to a tune of 31 million.  Why the fug wouldnt you simply wait and see?  

If the team is confident with the medicals, it makes a lot of sense. Lock down the most consistent member of the strongest unit for another two years, reduce the overall cap number which opens up to signing two impact players or rolling it over to next season, and get more flexibility in the upcoming drafts.

Another two to three years of Hunt/TMo paving the way on the right side is gonna be lit if TMo's got the knee figured out.

Edited 2 hours ago by Icege

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

I don't see any reason to think he doesn't have 2 more good years left. I think the knee issue has been overblown. My only question is why we didn't do this in February or March. We could have used the extra cap space to sign more help on defense.

How is it overblown? He had to have his workload very carefully managed all season last year while still missing some games. Not because of an acute injury, but because of chronic knee issues. These things just do not get better with age while still playing football and carrying 300+ pounds.

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, Icege said:

If the team is confident with the medicals, it makes a lot of sense. Lock down the most consistent member of the strongest unit for another two years, reduce the overall cap number which opens up to signing two impact players or rolling it over to next season, and get more flexibility in the upcoming drafts.

Another two to three years of Hunt/TMo paving the way on the right side is gonna be lit if TMo's got the knee figured out.

The cap would have opened up next year regardless, and what impact players are you referring to this late in the game?  Granted I am not well versed on who is a FA these days but I kindof gotta think its been reduced to dog poo at this point, but I could be wrong

[frankw]

It's a gamble no doubt but it had to be done regardless.

[Jay Roosevelt]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

How is it overblown? He had to have his workload very carefully managed all season last year while still missing some games. Not because of an acute injury, but because of chronic knee issues. These things just do not get better with age while still playing football and carrying 300+ pounds.

And yet he played and played well. I'm reasonably positive they're comfortable with his knee situation if they decided to extend him. I can understand if we signed him for 5-6 years, but it's a 2-year extension.

We have plenty of things on this team to be legitimately worried about; Taylor Moton is not one of them.

Edited 2 hours ago by Jay Roosevelt

[ECHornet]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Nice framing? You mean just telling the truth?

Your truth. Mine would look something like this…

 

”Panthers just extended their RT. He’s been a steady presence for years. This helps solidify our OL and secure it will remain a strength. Hopefully, he’ll be a career Panther.”

Your intelligent NFL friend likely would’ve responded with something like, “Nice signing. Helps Bryce continue to grow with good support from his OL.”

[Icege]

Just now, mrcompletely11 said:

The cap would have opened up next year regardless, and what impact players are you referring to this late in the game?  Granted I am not well versed on who is a FA these days but I kindof gotta think its been reduced to dog poo at this point, but I could be wrong

Do you know how to find the currently available list of free agents?

Not fuging with you btw, genuinely asking. Didn't want to provide you with resources and how to if you were already aware.

Mind you, this isn't to say that we should sign somebody and that they will be an impact player, but just looking at the dollar amount. $30M means you can shoulder two $10M+ deals. idk enough about Tillis yet to speak to his tendencies, but from what Dan spoke on last year it sounds like the team likes to keep $12M - $15M going into the season. That's a healthy number that allows the team to sign a guy (or a few) and still roll over a couple of bones.

[PantherChris]

1 minute ago, ECHornet said:

Your truth. Mine would look something like this…

 

”Panthers just extended their RT. He’s been a steady presence for years. This helps solidify our OL and secure it will remain a strength. Hopefully, he’ll be a career Panther.”

Your intelligent NFL friend likely would’ve responded with something like, “Nice signing. Helps Bryce continue to grow with good support from his OL.”

Also include "he graded out as the 6th best RT in the NFL last year"