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4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Wouldn't even be that. We still need two starting safeties. It would be more saying that Nick Scott stinks (facts) and we don't want to be backed into relying on a 4th round rookie.

I was just talking about having 1 safety on thr field that is worth playing

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Just now, Waldo said:

I was just talking about having 1 safety on thr field that is worth playing

I hope I'm wrong about Moehrig but I never understood backing up the Brinks truck for him. He's the type of safety you can generally grab for pretty cheap and lo and behold here's a better version of Moehrig available on the trash heap on the eve of the season.

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Just now, frankw said:

I don't see any harm in kicking the tires.

You gotta think he is going to have options.  For him to come here its going to be with the panther tax with god knows how many years. I would rather just play the young guy, roll the money and focus on 26 in making a real push to see what we have.

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4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I hope I'm wrong about Moehrig but I never understood backing up the Brinks truck for him. He's the type of safety you can generally grab for pretty cheap and lo and behold here's a better version of Moehrig available on the trash heap on the eve of the season.

He got overpayed for cleanup tackles on a crap D. That's like giving Wallace that kind of deal IMO.

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27 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I hope I'm wrong about Moehrig but I never understood backing up the Brinks truck for him. He's the type of safety you can generally grab for pretty cheap and lo and behold here's a better version of Moehrig available on the trash heap on the eve of the season.

I don’t think better version is the right phrase. Even looking at their grades, you can see they’re extremely different players. One is an elite run defender that struggles in coverage and can get to the QB when asked. The other is coverage first, and does not get to the QB when asked. 
 

after what I saw on the field last season I still have 0 issues at all with us getting a safety who can enforce run d 

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5 minutes ago, jb2288 said:

I don’t think better version is the right phrase. Even looking at their grades, you can see they’re extremely different players. One is an elite run defender that struggles in coverage and can get to the QB when asked. The other is coverage first, and does not get to the QB when asked. 
 

after what I saw on the field last season I still have 0 issues at all with us getting a safety who can enforce run d 

Those are the types of safeties you can get on the cheap. Safeties get paid for coverage unless you're stuck in the 80s and 90s. 

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31 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Those are the types of safeties you can get on the cheap. Safeties get paid for coverage unless you're stuck in the 80s and 90s. 

If that’s true, why were the top 4 highest FA safeties this year all above 70 run grade and below 60 coverage grade? While Peppers is getting cut?

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1 hour ago, mrcompletely11 said:

You gotta think he is going to have options.  For him to come here its going to be with the panther tax with god knows how many years. I would rather just play the young guy, roll the money and focus on 26 in making a real push to see what we have.

Well I'm going to have to take that back I suppose. I had forgotten about him spending time on the commissioners exempt list for domestic violence and cocaine. Suffice to say we aren't the ideal destination to try and keep someone with off field concerns on the straight and narrow.

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    • Man, we're desperate around here.  I had to look at Peppers' stats to see if I'm missing something, but no, he's an average guy at best.  Nothing impressive at all in his stats.  He's not a true safety at all, and I'm kind of annoyed with the jack of all trades players at this point.  Of course I see the PFF scores and everything, but I'm old school.  I believe the stats tell more about the player than the analytics.  This ain't moneyball here. (haha)  The best players put up numbers.  And when I look at the numbers, Peppers is just another player running around on the field.
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    • Yeah and to make it weirder Moehrig is a FS, Peppers is a SS. 
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