Why is everyone focused on BY while the real problem is ignored

[carpanfan96]

Offenses need to help their defenses and vose versa. The Panthers offense isn't helping the defense and the defense can't help the offense. 

 

3 and outs hurt a defense a ton. Offense needs to hold onto the ball and deliver long drives to create rest. 

[frankw]

6 minutes ago, cranky said:

I get what you are saying but am not sure even with better players they would be much better. Heck, they invested heavily in free agency last year to get better against the run and yet they, again, gave up over 200 yrds rushing. That's been a common theme EVER SINCE EVERO HAS BEEN HERE. 

If your issue is with Evero then you need to direct your ire toward the Panthers front office as they are the ones who denied interview requests for him and made absolutely no attempt to even consider any other options for the position.

[cranky]

1 minute ago, frankw said:

If your issue is with Evero then you need to direct your ire toward the Panthers front office as they are the ones who denied interview requests for him and made absolutely no attempt to even consider any other options for the position.

Agreed and I did say Canales future may be tied to him more than Young.

[frankw]

Just now, cranky said:

Agreed and I did say Canales future may be tied to him more than Young.

At this point based on what we know of how ownership operates and has meddled in the past it stands to reason that Canales was basically told Evero is going to be your DC if you take this job. And he accepted.

[ClawOn]

11 minutes ago, frankw said:

At this point based on what we know of how ownership operates and has meddled in the past it stands to reason that Canales was basically told Evero is going to be your DC if you take this job. And he accepted.

This is likely true.  If Evero survives this year (which I doubt) despite having a bottom 3 defense AGAIN then we'll know nothing has changed, Morgan and Canales have no voice, and we're hoping our owner isn't going to live forever like Jerry Jones 

[cranky]

1 hour ago, Jon Snow said:

What rock have you been hiding under? We've discussed the defense on here since the game. Hell we've talked about it since Evero got here.

Really? Well I looked and using the search function, I could only find 3 posts in the last 30 days on Evero. But maybe I missed it as every time I come on here there's nothing but BY suck threads lol. I'll look more carefully in the future and if I see something already posted in the previous week, I'll refrain from starting a new post....

Unless it's to comment on how much BY sucks 

[SmokinwithWilly]

9 minutes ago, cranky said:

Really? Well I looked and using the search function, I could only find 3 posts in the last 30 days on Evero. But maybe I missed it as every time I come on here there's nothing but BY suck threads lol. I'll look more carefully in the future and if I see something already posted in the previous week, I'll refrain from starting a new post....

Unless it's to comment on how much BY sucks 

I criticized Evero earlier today in another thread about not being able to figure out how to use players.

[TheSpecialJuan]

some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch The Huddle burn

[Beast_3000]

39 minutes ago, cranky said:

Really? Well I looked and using the search function, I could only find 3 posts in the last 30 days on Evero. But maybe I missed it as every time I come on here there's nothing but BY suck threads lol. I'll look more carefully in the future and if I see something already posted in the previous week, I'll refrain from starting a new post....

Unless it's to comment on how much BY sucks 

Are you responding from a Bryce Young family member burner account?  Think about what we gave up  for the rights to draft Bryce? Panthers could have drafted CJ Stroud, if we had a competent front office. Not only that that we lost the number 1 overall pick last season (potentially Jayden Daniels) AND the loss of DJ Moore. 

 The last 4 seasons we have invested our 1st round picks on offensive players. While the defense sucks the investment still doesn’t come close to the resources put in the offense. We just scored 10 points against  the 4 win Jaguars with the youngest coach in the league.  

 

[Mage]

I'm not saying the defense was great, but they held the Jaguars to 6 points in the second half.  Yes they should have been better in the first half, but it isn't like the Panthers offense helped with their turnovers.  

If they got completely dunked on the entire game, then sure, it would be worth discussing more.  But they stepped up in the second half.  Can you say the same about the offense / Bryce Young?

[CRA]

1 hour ago, LelouchBritannia said:

And they still gave up 22 points. Then the next two weeks 36 and 38…..all without Bryce.

 

 If you want to say Bryce should be carrying this team like Cam did. Yea maybe. But I’m not confident with this defense that even Cam could win more than a few games. It’s historically bad( as evidenced by last year) and led by a coordinator that will be out of the league working at Walgreens once he gets fired.

Well, sure they are a bad defense.

but you brought up the one Dalton win.  And it merely is an example of the most passing yards on the season (again it happens when Bryce isnt on the field on every season to date with a washed Dalton)…..and the D allowed less pts and yards than they averaged on the year.  Offense keeps all variety of defenses, in our case bad, off the field.

I don’t want Bryce to be Cam.  I want him to at what bare bones behind the most expensive OL in the NFL….generate average offensive production 

[CRA]

1 hour ago, cranky said:

The Panthers won the other games at the beginning of the year were the defense held them to 22 and 17 points as well but they only scored 22 and 20 points themselves I don't think your argument passes the test.

I didn’t bring up the Dalton win.  Someone used it as an example of the D still be bad no matter what. 

But in reality, it is an example of them being less bad than they averaged on the year.  Because it was a game with offense and possession of the ball.   If there were more games like that the D likely isn’t historically bad and just bad.  Just the math of keeping them off the field 

[CRA]

1 hour ago, cranky said:

Really? Well I looked and using the search function, I could only find 3 posts in the last 30 days on Evero. But maybe I missed it as every time I come on here there's nothing but BY suck threads lol. I'll look more carefully in the future and if I see something already posted in the previous week, I'll refrain from starting a new post....

Unless it's to comment on how much BY sucks 

3 posts on Evero in the last 30 days? It’s pages and pages and pages and pages and pages of posts if you search up Evero in the last 30 days 

[Bear Hands]

We're not very good on either side of the ball.  It's been a thing for a while now.