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- Even with Derrick Brown back, we so far have the kind of defense that would require an offense that scores about thirty points a game to win.

We do not have an offense that can score thirty points a game.

- Young is still not quite good enough for me to endorse sticking with him, but the "worst ever" talk is silly, especially given that his 'support staff' has some major holes in it.

Evaluate him honestly and don't try to explain it away when he does well. You still might come away with negative feelings, but they'll at least be honest.

- Xavier Legette...is it a confidence problem? A skill problem? An effort problem? Combination of things? Unknown, but at this point I'd absolutely move him down the depth chart.

Replace him with Coker (when he's healthy) or Horn, or... somebody. Maybe he can win back his job down the road, but right now? 😖

- Starting to feel like there are some issues with our offensive play design, though more so on the run plays than the passing ones. Not sure whether Canales or Idzik is writing the plays but whomever it is might need to make some changes.

Mind you, this is not something I've put any detailed analysis into at this point. It's just a general observation. Maybe someone who checks the All 22 stuff can take a look.

- Appended to the above, I feel like I'm done with Evero. Though to be fair, I already felt that after last season's debacle.

- Positives: I like this Tremayne kid. Kudos also to Hunter Renfrow and, of course, McMillan. 

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2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

- Even with Derrick Brown back, we so far have the kind of defense that would require an offense that scores about thirty points a game to win.

We do not have an offense that can score thirty points a game.

- Young is still not quite good enough for me to endorse sticking with him, but the "worst ever" talk is silly, especially given that his 'support staff' has some major holes in it.

Evaluate him honestly and don't try to explain it away when he does well. You still might come away with negative feelings, but they'll at least be honest.

- Xavier Legette...is it a confidence problem? A skill problem? An effort problem? Combination of things? Unknown, but at this point I'd absolutely move him down the depth chart.

Replace him with Coker (when he's healthy) or Horn, or... somebody. Maybe he can win back his job down the road, but right now? 😖

- Starting to feel like there are some issues with our offensive play design, though more so on the run plays than the passing ones. Not sure whether Canales or Idzik is writing the plays but whomever it is might need to make some changes.

Mind you, this is not something I've put any detailed analysis into at this point. It's just a general observation. Maybe someone who checks the All 22 stuff can take a look.

- Appended to the above, I feel like I'm done with Evero. Though to be fair, I already felt that after last season's debacle.

- Positives: I like this Tremayne kid. Kudos also to Hunter Renfrow and, of course, McMillan. 

I can cosign all of this. I would like to throw in a shout out to the rookie kicker.

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I'm not glossing over Bryce's turnovers because he padded some stats against prevent defenses. You saw what he looked like when the game mattered earlier in the game and on the last drive. Bryce looked flustered when Arizona was rushing the passer seriously and playing tight defense.

The real issue is he always seems to have MULTI turnover games. Those are a fuging killer man, he has to stop turning the ball over multiple times a game if we want to win games. 

There's going to be a TON of people propping up Bryce's garbage time stats against prevent defenses this week and not mentioning his back breaking turnovers to start the game with. 

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XL isn’t trying out there. He was really a one hit wonder at SC. I think he’s got some athletic skills, but so far hasn’t been able to translate into anything. Perhaps he’d do better has a rotational guy on a veteran team. He’s asked to be something he’s not yet here. 

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The Good: WR Corps minus XL, Sanders, Horn

The Bad: LB's, DL, Coaching, Run Game, OL Health

The Ugly: Bryce, XL

I hope you felt the hater in you typing this. You just stated that all of the things a qb needs to be successful didn’t show up well, then gave him the ugly. When what I saw is a QB that fought despite his supporting cast being pretty ass. 

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The bar is insanely low, but I was somewhat happy with defense. Held them to under 300 total yards and 20 total points, some of that coming on very short fields. The biggest screw up for them today was giving the TD right before end of half but we did get screwed on the no catch ref call so I’m sure they were packed in for the half then had to go back out there. 

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8 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

- Even with Derrick Brown back, we so far have the kind of defense that would require an offense that scores about thirty points a game to win.

We do not have an offense that can score thirty points a game.

- Young is still not quite good enough for me to endorse sticking with him, but the "worst ever" talk is silly, especially given that his 'support staff' has some major holes in it.

Evaluate him honestly and don't try to explain it away when he does well. You still might come away with negative feelings, but they'll at least be honest.

- Xavier Legette...is it a confidence problem? A skill problem? An effort problem? Combination of things? Unknown, but at this point I'd absolutely move him down the depth chart.

Replace him with Coker (when he's healthy) or Horn, or... somebody. Maybe he can win back his job down the road, but right now? 😖

- Starting to feel like there are some issues with our offensive play design, though more so on the run plays than the passing ones. Not sure whether Canales or Idzik is writing the plays but whomever it is might need to make some changes.

Mind you, this is not something I've put any detailed analysis into at this point. It's just a general observation. Maybe someone who checks the All 22 stuff can take a look.

- Appended to the above, I feel like I'm done with Evero. Though to be fair, I already felt that after last season's debacle.

- Positives: I like this Tremayne kid. Kudos also to Hunter Renfrow and, of course, McMillan. 

take away the points bryce has given to the other team with short field and turnovers our defense hasnt played that bad.  not top ten but not bottom ten either.  

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6 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

The Good: WR Corps minus XL, Sanders, CB's

The Bad: LB's, DL, Coaching, Run Game, OL Health

The Ugly: Bryce, XL

Special teams had its moments, especially that onside kick.

Bryce had moments that fit under all three categories.

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2 minutes ago, AceBoogie said:

XL isn’t trying out there. He was really a one hit wonder at SC. I think he’s got some athletic skills, but so far hasn’t been able to translate into anything. Perhaps he’d do better has a rotational guy on a veteran team. He’s asked to be something he’s not yet here. 

Special teams. He would be an excellent gunner and could be a special teams star. Just run down the field and hit someone. No catching, no route-running, nothing to think about except seek and destroy.

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My observations:

WR group: McMillan is legit, Renfrow is the #2. They value Tremayne’s size. XL has problems. 
 

Bryce: Did fine once he calmed down but can’t handle pressure. Reminds me of Darnold here and in NY except he can’t push the ball downfield. Every drive has to be 10+ plays. 
 

Defense: Slightly better. Went from historically terrible to just terrible. 
 

OL: Moton looks really slow. Would be interested to see what his PFF grade is the first two weeks. 
 

Run game: Looks like they have Hubbard on a pitch count to save him for later in the season.

Coaching: Actually saw Canales get animated and pissed off a few times which I haven’t seen before. 

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