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You Done with Morgan Yet?

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My time away from this board has brought to show me just how homeristic and dilusional the major panthers twitter accounts are. They're the cooks going down with the titanic and simply don't know ball. 

Everything that Dan Morgan has done since January 22, 2024 has been a home run to them.

Legette is the icing on the cake of one of the worst drafts in Panthers history from 2024. Just b/c one guy had a sack today doesn't make this last draft great, either. They took Jonathan Brooks with a known injury in a high round last year and these heads thought that was brilliant.

We traded away our most consistent weapon (would have helped both these weeks) b/c we thought a UDFA could do the job of a veteran pro bowler, but then got hurt. 

We can't draft so getting a 4th and a 5th for an "aging wide receiver on an expiring contract" means we didn't get anything and the team got worse as if Morgan knew and mailed it in for the season a few days before the start.

Hopkins is an aging wide receiver on an expiring contract too. I guess you wouldn't want him either if you wanted to win now?

These arm chair GM's continue to push until the next year. It's now been eight years of pushing until the next year.

Garbage time stats mean jack poo. The cardinals immediately went back to playing serious and shut this offense down immediately. I don't want to hear about injuries, these are just excuses.

Tepper sell the god damn team, you're not going to get anyone to come work for you.

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5 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I thought it was insane to fire Tepperer and then hand the reins over to his hand picked right-hand man in the first place.

Never made sense to me either. Dan Morgan was in the room when they refused to trade Brian Burns for a QB level haul of picks. Everyone should have been fired into the sun the moment that trade was rejected. 

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I was very skeptical of Dan when he was promoted, and all my fears are coming true.

I suspect Dan was hired because:

1) Good candidates declined interviews.

2) He was the only candidate who was excited about Bryce and doing everything possible to prove he was a good pick.

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6 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Never made sense to me either. Dan Morgan was in the room when they refused to trade Brian Burns for a QB level haul of picks. Everyone should have been fired into the sun the moment that trade was rejected. 

Too much is made about the trade that never was. At that time Burns was the ONLY legit pass rusher we had on the team. If you had got rid of him you who was going to supply the pass rush? I think at that time he was viewed as cornerstone of the team going forward. Even now he's still only 27. And, we still have not added a pass rusher to replace him. I would have made more sense to try get get them to take Derrick Brown. Burns has more sacks in a season than Brown has had in 5 seasons.

Those picks would have been in different years so we would have only had one extra pick in each year.

And, let's be honest. You see how this team has drafted over the years. We used #1 picks in Bryce Young and XL. Do you really think those picks would have made a difference on this team? 

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I mean, it's easy to say, "Morgan was Fitterer's right hand man, so he agreed with all the mistakes Fitterer made." Life and managerial structures don't necessarily work that way.

GMs aren't perfect, and there are going to be hits and misses most every draft. Most would say that if you can get a couple of starters in a draft that you're doing pretty good. Even if X busts, there are still people in that draft, and an undrafted free agent, that look promising. JT looked pretty good yesterday. Calculate in the 2025 draft, which I think is fair, and I'm not going to complain. Where I think Dan has not gotten it right is overpaying a couple of free agents. and, sorry, I don't accept the "Panthers tax" argument because there is modest overpaying and gross overpaying. 

I'm very much more critical of Dave Canales. He has to develop the talent that he is given. He also is responsible for his staff and personnel decision is on game days. I'm glad that he saw fit to get JT more involved yesterday. He gets zero credit for Hunter Renfrow, as should've never fired him in the first place, only to rehire him due to injury. 

But Dan, I'd give another couple of years. 

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16 minutes ago, SCO96 said:

Too much is made about the trade that never was. At that time Burns was the ONLY legit pass rusher we had on the team. If you had got rid of him you who was going to supply the pass rush? I think at that time he was viewed as cornerstone of the team going forward. Even now he's still only 27. And, we still have not added a pass rusher to replace him. I would have made more sense to try get get them to take Derrick Brown. Burns has more sacks in a season than Brown has had in 5 seasons.

Those picks would have been in different years so we would have only had one extra pick in each year.

And, let's be honest. You see how this team has drafted over the years. We used #1 picks in Bryce Young and XL. Do you really think those picks would have made a difference on this team? 

It was the return for the value of the player. If someone came and offered me $20k over the blue book value of my car, even though I don't have another vehicle at the moment, it's worth the short term pain to realize that long term gain. It was just dumb to reject such a great value for a single player.

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