Panther fans sound off on Bryce

[Shotgun]

11 hours ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

At this moment I'd have to say he's the biggest bust in NFL history.  

I'd say the smallest. lol

[frankw]

40 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Here is the new narrative ladies and gentlemen

Things like that go beyond difference of opinion. It's simply living in an alternate reality from the rest of us.

Edited September 16 by frankw

[hepcat]

12 hours ago, kungfoodude said:

Nah. He definitely isn't. There are some really massive ones.

He will likely go down as a top mention in terms of QB busts.

Who is a bigger bust than Bryce Young? Who???

For the aggregate cost paid vs value gained, he is, by far and away, the biggest draft bust in maybe the history of sports. 

[kungfoodude]

1 hour ago, strato said:

I guess. For me I am a layman football scouting wise. I know nothing really. But just 10 minutes of critically looking at Young via videos showed it to me. 

I don’t think Leaf, for instance, would have been easy that way. He had the prototypical stuff. To know he would bust, you’d have to have the skill to dissect his mental potholes. And probably some one on one time with him. 

Some of that stuff shows itself along the way. That is not doing your due dilligence during the process. Being a nutter should have raised it's ugly head. But, that relies on people around him telling you the full story too.

[kungfoodude]

15 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Who is a bigger bust than Bryce Young? Who???

For the aggregate cost paid vs value gained, he is, by far and away, the biggest draft bust in maybe the history of sports. 

I looked at a few. RGIII trade up(2 to 6) was for an additional 2 firsts and a second. That's fuging insane.

[CRA]

5 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I looked at a few. RGIII trade up(2 to 6) was for an additional 2 firsts and a second. That's fuging insane.

Brock Purdy erases the gigantic Trey Lance in a way it probably shouldn't.   Talk about a horseshoe up that front office's backside. 

3 first round picks and a 3rd I think is what Trey Lance cost. 

but credit them as well for not getting bogged down in their mistake and sticking with it.  

[kungfoodude]

6 minutes ago, CRA said:

Brock Purdy erases the gigantic Trey Lance in a way it probably shouldn't.   Talk about a horseshoe up that front office's backside. 

3 first round picks and a 3rd I think is what Trey Lance cost. 

but credit them as well for not getting bogged down in their mistake and sticking with it.  

That is a swap included, though. So the RGIII is a little bit worse. 

I think there are more of these disastrously bad trade ups than we realize, because it isn't happening to us like Bryce did.

[CRA]

4 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

That is a swap included, though. So the RGIII is a little bit worse. 

I think there are more of these disastrously bad trade ups than we realize, because it isn't happening to us like Bryce did.

RG3 at least gave Washington a season of hope and joy.  As a rookie he posted a winning season, OROY and the postseason.  

So they got at least a year of something really nice.  Then the pain came. 

[CPF4LIFE]

Remember the Seattle game with Dalton where the Bryce Stans mocked Dalton because he threw the ball 50+ times? Now Bryce does it, and he’s elite, and put out elite tape on Sunday. Lol

 

[kungfoodude]

5 minutes ago, CRA said:

RG3 at least gave Washington a season of hope and joy.  As a rookie he posted a winning season, OROY and the postseason.  

So they got at least a year of something really nice.  Then the pain came. 

Honestly, that is probably worse, TBH. I would rather you just suck right out of the gate than have to think about what could have been for a decade plus.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Remember the Seattle game with Dalton where the Bryce Stans mocked Dalton because he threw the ball 50+ times? Now Bryce does it, and he’s elite, and put out elite tape on Sunday. Lol

 

That was one battle I never understood. Darnold is so clearly terrible and Bryce was terrible with a false hope of being better. Now both are very obviously bad.

I will say that Darnold at least developed into a rosterable player. Bryce may be out of the league in 2-3 seasons at his current track.

[SmokinwithWilly]

54 minutes ago, hepcat said:

Who is a bigger bust than Bryce Young? Who???

For the aggregate cost paid vs value gained, he is, by far and away, the biggest draft bust in maybe the history of sports. 

Little different perspective. Biggest draft bust ever has to be the Hornets trading away Kobe Bryant immediately  after drafting him. 

[raleigh-panther]

15 hours ago, CPF4LIFE said:

Did somebody from the Huddle call in on the show?

Side note: Bryce's stats in close 1 score games are hard to look at. 

 

At 5 mins  and 38 seconds 

analysis of bryce’s performance within one score (you know,  when it matters)

Passing   9 of 16 for 61 yards

1 sack fumble returned fir a TD

1 Interception  thrown

1 sack  fumble   taken away due to defensive penalty

game ending sack

that’s our qb when it matters 

 

 

[Jon Snow]

9 hours ago, electro's horse said:

Everyone knew Manziel was going to flame out, especially once the combine process started and all the stories from TAMU started to get to teams. Dude straight up did not know how to play football, how to read a defense, how to not do drugs. There were rumors that his family was involved in armenian organized crime that were pretty credible. 

He was just that physically gifted in college; he had a huge arm, he could scramble away from anyone, and no matter where he was on the field he could toss up a jump ball to mike evans. Him beating Alabama was what caused Saban to finally get away from statue QBs and implement some RPO elements. 

The way he played in college was never going to work in the pros. Even if he wasn't a polysubstance abuser and was cerebral and willing to put in the work, the best case scenario was always him sitting for multiple years and learning how to play football. He was off almost all boards, notably not Dallas tho. 

This a true story. A homeless person approached Jimmy Haslam on the street and told him to draft Johnny Football. So the Browns did. That was just about the worst place he could have landed, he started right away, and the first time he tried to get to the edge against an NFL linebacker he realized he wasn't as fast as Luke Kuechly and he was injured and never really played again. 

I was at this game. 

Anyway, great college player, absolutely deserved the Heisman, was never going to work in the NFL, hard to call him a bust just because the Browns reached for him and threw him to the wolves. 

Sounds eerily familiar, but without the drugs and big arm.